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Atheists Why Do You Fear The Psychedelic Experience

Have you ever had a psychedelic trip that you could not reconcile with your materialistic and atheistic beliefs? Other atheists just don't get what I went through. I saw something beyond. I am lost.

Have you ever had a psychedelic trip that you could not reconcile with your materialistic and atheistic beliefs? Other atheists just don't get what I went through. I saw something beyond. I am lost.When you say you are “lost,” I believe you. The definition below is taken from the World Wide Webpsy·che·del·ic/ˌsīkəˈdelik/adjective1.relating to or denoting drugs (especially LSD) that produce hallucinations and apparent expansion of consciousness.synonyms:hallucinatory, trippy, dream-like, mind-bending, mind-altering, mind-expanding, mind-blowing, bizarre, surreal"a psychedelic experience"Ummmmm, so, yeah; by the way this question is posed it sounds like you were under the influence of something. This means you were not in an unaltered state of mind when you had your experience.Or were you? And what exactly was the experience? See, the thing is, it is hard to give an objective response based on two points;The question as it is asked, andLack of information, not knowing what the experience itself was.Something I have learned over the decades is that perception changes over time because we learned something later on that we had no knowledge of earlier, skewing our perception of the events in question.Case in point:Narcissism- when you grow up in a dysfunctional environment you aren’t aware that the people around you could potentially be screwing with your head, because you are a kid. Kids tend to think of adults as credible to a large extent. It is only when you get older and learn a few things that you can clearly comprehend what makes sense as compared to what does not.The same is applied to ALL of life’s situations and this is because the brain functions differently at different stages in addition to having some kind of knowledge or lack thereof.All that being said, I am sure there is a perfectly rational explanation for whatever your “psychedelic” experience was.

Former psychedelics users turned Christian?

Is there anyone here who is Christian but once used psychedelics (like lsd for example)?

What are your thoughts on your trips when you look back on them? How do you deal with the philosophical, moral, and other implications of what you witnessed and experienced?


Looking back on one particularly "revelatory" trip of mine, I the see psychedelic experience as a deceptive trap. I believe that this physical dimension is a fallen state ruled by the the prince of the power of the air (lucifer the devil). The devil is the father of lies.

During this trip I realized how all the eye candy I was seeing was just smoke and mirrors. An illusion. It had no soul. It was like being in a room filled with dummies dressed and posed like humans. You can still sense loneliness because those dummies aren't alive. They have no essence. The trip revealed how indefinite and deceptive this reality truly is (people chasing after money and women only to end up feeling empty and lost as an example). How empty and meaningless it all is once you don't have access to crutches and distractions.

This trip left me feeling really empty and lost. Hopeless. Like I was losing my mind.

When I turned back to God, the foggy thinking and mind wrecking confusion was cleared and I saw truth. I saw how God was an unmovable pillar of truth, light, justice, love, and order. God is the complete opposite of satan and his realm.


However there are still some sensations that plague me, flashbacks if you will. I'm wondering how you people deal with it?

Are there any Bible verses that mention psychedelic use ?

You are imagining this one. God would never allow anything unclean to come to His temple. The priests was not even allowed to drink alcohol, even the rest of the people could drink diluted wine. Usually one part wine and three parts water.

MIMI

Why do some people think about life after death?

Why do some people think what about life after death? That it exists?Let’s think about this for a moment - what is death? What is life? Death as defined in the dictionary is “absence of life.” Unfortunately, the same definition for what life is - “not dead.” So we have a problem with syntax just beginning to discuss this topic.Does life exist prior to being on the planet? Apparently so, as the thousands of case studies of Dr. Helen Wambach and a decade later Michael Newton show. People under deep hypnosis claim not only to remember previous lifetimes, but why they chose to come to the planet in this incarnation. So in terms of “life” existing prior to being “alive” - there’s a body of research on the topic.Then we can examine what it means to be “alive” or “conscious” while we are on the planet. People claim (I’ve filmed 45 deep hypnosis sessions and examined thousands of others) that we only bring a limited amount of our conscious energy to any particular lifetime. That we “leave behind about two thirds of that energy” while we are here - so even when we are “alive” we’re only running on about a third of our engines… only can access about a third of who or what we are. As if we “dumbed ourselves down” to actually incarnate.Finally, when people stop breathing, their conscious minds “return home.” In all of the cases I’ve examined, people claim that is where they go “after being here” - home. (Not any other name - not heaven, purgatory, or some other construct that is man made). They claim it consistently - “back home” as in not here on the planet.So in this model it appears that we are always alive - that there’s no possibility of not being alive, that when our body ceases to function here, who we are - who we were - continues to function elsewhere. So there is no death per se - there is only life. So it’s not a matter of belief that we have “life after death.” It’s a matter of understanding the process in and of itself - we have life before coming here, we have a semiconscious experience while we’re here, and we return to the rest of that consciousness when we make the trip “home.”

Has anyone had a profound or life changing spiritual experience?

Happened to me. Yup. Not in a Jesus fanatical religious sort of way BUT I now believe in God because of what happened. Keep in mind it changed my mind relatively overnight and I was a person who started up conversations about God just to hear what a jerk I thought you sounded like. No more. I can honestly say I'm spiritual not necessarily religious. I respect people's religions but I feel that spirituality sets you free not binds you in. Freedom to search allows you to see who God really is.

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