Human Cryogenic Freezing: Waste of money? Good Investment?
People get themselves frozen via cryogenics to wake up at a later time. This is done sometimes because they have incurable diseases and sometimes because they think humans will figure out at some point how to live forever. So, they want to be frozen till that point comes in human technology. God states that each human being shall taste death at one point. To someone religious this is an undeniable truth, as is evidenced by people dying throughout time. If one is not religious, when do u think the time will come when human technology will be able to grant humans immortality? Is it even possible? I for one think that cryogenic freezing is a scam. What does everyone think especially in a religious or athiest point of view? Just for fun, look at the link with the pictures from Alcor corp., the largest corporation that deals with human cryogenic freezing. http://www.alcor.org/AtWork/index.html -look at the last pic Thanks for your opinions and responses.
Thinking about getting cryogenically frozen?
I don’t care about the how or why this is the ONLY option for life extension (at his time) so it’s either be frozen or die. Even if there is a 0.0001 percent chance I will be revived its better that a 0 percent chance. I think the government will want to revive people who have been frozen because there will be plenty of room once humans have colonized space which could be infinite and if someone was frozen from back in the 16 century and we had the technology to revive them today I think we would. it would be fascinating to speak to someone from the past Besides I’m not boasting but all the money I have no isn’t going to be much use when I am dead so why not?
Do you think cryonics will ever work?
It may but it relies on far future technologies, put Simply it would require the cure of all cures, the cure to death itself to reanimate people from cryonic suspension. People who believe in cryonics believe that one day, around 1000 years from now if I had to guess, that technology will enable people to live much longer maybe even hundreds or thousands of years, such as nanotechnology involving microscopic nanosize robots that can fix and rebuild anything, and can repair any and all bodily damage done by the cryonics process, and as long as your brain survived and could be repaired you would still be you. And also finding the genes that make people age and get old and sick and reverse or stop those processes through genetic sciences. though you can still be smashed and never be brought back if you brain gets destroyed in these hypothetical situations due to physical limitations. So depending on if people will actually let science get to the point where they will let everyone live forever it may be possible, i think its interesting but am not sure yet if I personally would want to be brought back in this manner, but its definitely an interesting topic as it has been throughout time.
Will Cryonics ever work?
In my opinion, yes, Cryonics will eventually work. Vitrification, a minimally damaging process similar to freezing, is making huge advances. Within the last year, an entire rabbit kidney was vitrified, stored in liquid nitrogen, thawed, and implanted. (and it worked!) Before this, it had never been done with anything as large as a whole organ. Freezing and Thawing technology will continue to mature over time, and eventually work. That brings us to why Cryonicists spend the money to be frozen. Time. Decay, and every other cellular process, practically stops at liquid nitrogen temperature. If it takes 50 or 500 years for the technology to develop, that's ok, because it is the equivalent of less than a second of cellular decay at -192 degrees. http://www.benbest.com is an excellent resource. http://www.alcor.org and http://www.cryonics.org are the two primary Cryonics organizations in the US. Ejay Hire, Funded option 2 member of the Cryonics Institute
How do you feel about cryonics?
Do you believe that it would be more moral to cryogenically or otherwise preserve the dead as opposed to burying or burning them IF they could be potentially be repaired and revived at some future date? Though cryonics is still in its infancy, and thus far from perfect, there's good reason to believe that future (approx. 20-80 years) advances in fields like nanotech, neuroscience, genetics, and computing will be able to repair much, if not all, of the damage caused by accident, disease, aging, and the freezing process itself. So, what's your take on this? Would it be something you'd do? If people could be revived how would that effect your religious beliefs (assuming you have any)?
Can you help me with chem? i think my chem teacher is crazy but i got a couple questions?
1. fertilizers, explosives & cryogenics, we come in contact with this gas more that any other. long ago, at night, Trojan men would breathe in a mixture containing 80% of this gas, before going into battle. 2. crystals of its salts are known for their crisp colors. this metal puts the shine on your car bumper. 3. used as an alloy in ball-point pens, nearly twice as dense as lead,the strong odor given off by this metal is a result of its highly toxic oxide.
Why not get cryogenically frozen if it’s the only chance at seeing the future?
The answer is, of course, that you SHOULD sign up for the possibilities of seeing the future with cryonics (cryogenically being preserved immediately upon pronouncement of “death.”) For most people reading this post, to not investigate whether this is a psychological and financial fit is willful ignorance.In direct contradiction of the misinformed two responses I just read on this question, cryonics is indeed generally affordable through the leverage of life insurance. I am personally signed up for cryonics, since 1994. The cost of cryonic suspension and indefinite storage is $220,000, but this is covered by a life insurance policy which costs me about 80 bucks a month. There are also separate dues at Alcor, my cryonics org, which are about 40 bucks a month. A chance—not a guarantee—to see the year 3000 for less than many of us spend on a large mocha at Starbucks is a value proposition second to none, in my opinion.While the tech does not yet exist to actually revive humans or even other animals from full cryonic/cryogenic temperatures at this moment, there are numerous “proof of principal” realities which are currently mainstream science. These include the thousands of humans who are alive who were frozen embryos, cryogenically frozen eggs, sperm, and some organs are viable even with current technology.The tech for revival is not yet there, but the tech to preserve STRUCTURE is already here…and this means that cryonics is a “bridge to the future” where medical science and nanotech will have continued the exponential advances those of you who are paying attention will have noted.I refer you to the Alcor Life Extension Foundation website, as well as http://cryonics.org and my own contribution to this question at Rudi Hoffman - Certified Financial Planner™, Cryonics, Cryogenic Suspension, Financial PlanningIn response to your second question re: leaving a compounding money fund. This is also possible, although not guaranteed to work. I personally have a “cryonics revival trust” funded with about 3 million of life insurance, designed to grow and compound with a “real return” (slightly over inflation and taxes) over extended time.
Cryonics does it conflict with religion?
I've always been taught that people will be pulled from their graves, reconstitued, and brought back to life at the rapture. I don't see anything that makes "pulled from a grave" any different from "pulled from a dewar". I don't see a problem with the rapture and Cryonics. The only "religious" issue I can imagine with Cryonics is it could be misconstrued as a lack of faith, a backup plan in case we are wrong on the whole Jesus/Eternal Life thing. Following that logic though, CPR and heart transplants and a whole lot of other life saving procedures would be wrong too. Cryonics is a medical procedure to store people whose bodies have been irreparably damaged today, so that the damage can be repaired in the future. It should be viewed as a long-term version of CPR.
Currently I am in second year CSE, and there is an open elective coming up in the 4th semester. What are the most preferred ones?
First thing first, don't take any Technical Elective, yes I can see you have mentioned that you want to take one, still.I had my interest in AI and when I saw robotics in the list. I knew that was what I wanted to take, (Physiology was my second option, I still wish I had put that as my first option).To sum up the experience of this OE, all I can say is that, "I liked robotics, I still like AI because we were never taught anything about AI, apparently we were taught robotics and I don't like robotics anymore". Here I mean that it is always better if you pursue your interest without taking a similar OE in the fourth sem. Most of the technical open electives did a good job of sucking out interest as I know from my friends. So take something that is interesting and completely new, you will have a Program Elective in the coming semesters. I would recommend you to take Linear Algebra then , it is really helpful in Game Development and Machine Learning. But for the Fourth Sem OE go for some Non-Technical Elective. Here are the two I found most interesting.Advertisement Theory : This is Fun you get to make ads in class and its really fun answering the exam.The cut-off is low too. Inter-cultural communication: Again Something very interesting and the topics that I have heard that they discussed are interesting.Now If You still want to take up something that is little towards technical part.German: Take this and everyone will know that you are the 9 pointer. The cut-off is high for this but you get to learn a new language and that is always great. Psychology: I don't know what they were taught in the elective, but I have always found it amazing to make predictions by reading someones body language. More over they did not have sessionals. Total Quality Management : This is where you never attend classes, yes most of the time classes remain canceled.(Take this at your own risk :).Biology: You get crossword and fill in the blanks to solve.Before even thinking of deciding on taking an open elective get a good gpa in 3rd sem so that you can get any elective you want. Take an easy and fun elective. You will have Program Electives later too. Explore something different and something new.