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Do Conservatives Really Believe In-person Voter Fraud Is Rampant

Do Conservatives really believe that unregulated capitalism is the way to go?

Have Conservatives never read the history of this country in the 19th century? Unregulated capitalism leads to monopolies and very rich and very poor. We have seen this same story over and over. The World Bank and the U.S. forced Mexico and many South American countries to deregulate it's economies and we have seen the same thing. Destroyed rice industry in Haiti, now one man owns all of the land line phones in Mexico, single water companies, with no restrictions, charge people whatever they want regardless of whether they can pay or not. In this country we saw no middle class, the working poor worked 12 hours a day, 13 days in a row for just enough to not starve. Child labor was rampant. Oil, steel, and railroad barrens created enormous monopolies. And as a result there was no competition, no consumer class. The government did the will of the rich and used the resources, and the military to force other countries to buy our goods.

Unregulated capitalism (laissez faire capitalism) is anti-democratic in nature. This society exists for everyone, not just the people that are rich enough to buy governmental favors. The middle class was fought for by unions, literally fought for. Remember those movies of the civil rights marches and the response by the government, that's what it looked like in this country in the 19th and early 20th centuries during the labor movement.

If you are a rich guy, then I get it. But if you are just some guy, that works a job, why would you like to see yourself living in a flop-house somewhere, with no job, no benefits, terrible working conditions if you can find a job.

Do Republicans really believe voter fraud is a problem or is it just an excuse to tighten ballot access?

“Do Republicans really believe voter fraud is a problem or is it just an excuse to tighten ballot access?”I have no doubt that there are Republicans that sincerely believe that voter fraud is a problem. Reality, however, seems at odds with that belief.I recently ran across an article talking about an investigation into voter fraud in KS. The results were that, over a period of 10 years, and a voting population of about 1.5 million, there were SEVEN incidents of voter fraud. Of those seven, 4 were Republicans and 3 were Democrats.This is consistent with my own experience. I’ve been an election official in a major urban area for quite some time. During the 10+ years I’ve worked at the polls, there is been ONE case of voter fraud.I’ll also point out that many liberals have no problem whatsoever with the idea of voter ID. We DO have a problem with the methods used in implementing that requirement. To date, voter ID laws have brought with them blatant voter SUPPRESSION. This includes things like closing a significant number of the centers at which Id could be obtained (Alabama, IIRC), relocating those centers to areas that can only be reached by automobile (Texas), and reducing the hours of operation of those centers so that citizens are forced to take time off during the business day to get there (Texas).The most recent example is in North Dakota. A voter ID law there requires a street address to vote. That sound reasonable enough, until you realize that Native Americans living on the reservation do not have a street address. Some 3000 citizens only have a PO box, assigned by the feds. Those people are now disenfranchised. The Supreme Court has declined to hear an appeal on this one.By coincidence, Native Americans are heavily Democratic voters and the last Senate race in ND was decided by about 3000 votes. Ain’t that interesting?

Do Conservatives truly believe that voter fraud is rampant?

Maybe some do. More likely, it’s ineligible voters that vote than actual in person impersonation fraud.One might argue ineligible voting is fraud, but it’s not unreasonable to conclude that non-citizen residents may find their ability to vote unimpeded while they’re obtaining driving and work ID and paying taxes.It’s easy to argue that “Doesn’t happen” at the same time as not checking if it actually does happen. Especially when a significant percentage of non-citizens actually claim they have voted, when asked.Besides, it should be as difficult to prove you’re eligible to vote at the time of voter registration as it would be at the time of actual voting.As well, it seems that there is a distinct difference in the point of view regarding whether alleged ineligible voters are the missing link why a certain party isn’t able to win an election. Either this is significantly targetted to the losing party’s valid voters, or it’s targetted to the losing party’s (should be) ineligible voters.If it’s only the valid voters, this is wrong and should be stopped. (Although, if this doesn’t make any difference in the election…) And if it’s ineligible voters, then there shouldn’t be any objection because of course the losing party wasn’t relying on ineligible voters to win. It’s easier to assign malice to the other side.

Do liberals believe that voter fraud happens?

Are there actually still People in this World who think they are abstract things such as "liberals" or,...whats the other one,....."conservatives"?

Amazing.

You've got to admire those manipulators.
They've really done a job on many of us.....

All Human Beings are merely that, Human Beings.

There is TRUTH, and there are LIES.
There is RIGHT and there is WRONG.

People who consider themselves to be either liberal or conservative think like, mostly without realizing it,...sports fans.

They "support" one team or the other, and they cheer for their team while booing the other. all the while not realizing they are being manipulated into doing so.

It's sad really.

No wonder the criminals find it so easy to rule.

Freedom, and the liberty to live free without infringement is a right we all have a right to.

Fraud does happen and voter fraud does occur, of that there can be no argument.

The truth is still the truth, even when only one in a million can see it.

Repost: Can conservatives explain to me how the Voter ID law is necessary?

I know this is a repost, but I feel that I didn't get an adequate answer that was supported by facts


Forget the fact that it discriminates against minorities, the elderly, and the poor. That it is completely biased towards Republican votes.

Explain to me simply, why a law is needed to prevent something that almost never happens. 10 cases in 12 years....

Even the RNC could only find about 300 cases in the last 12 years, which included things like mis-entered adresses which an ID couldnt fix.

So tell me, why is this a necessary law?

And don't even try to throw ACORN at me...

This is from Factcheck.org

■Neither ACORN nor its employees have been found guilty of, or even charged with, casting fraudulent votes. What a McCain-Palin Web ad calls "voter fraud" is actually voter registration fraud. Several ACORN canvassers have been found guilty of faking registration forms and others are being investigated. But the evidence that has surfaced so far shows they faked forms to get paid for work they didn’t do, not to stuff ballot boxes.
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here are the statistics of people who do not carry ID, they also are people most likely to vote democratic

Blacks: 25%
Asians: 20%
Latinos: 19%
18-24 year olds: 18%
Seniors: 18%
Earning less than $35,000: 15%
Whites: 8%

Why is it that conservatives want a "small state" when it comes to economics but not when it comes to social issues?

Because those are actually two separate and distinct ideological positions. There are some conservatives that are “small government” (that phrase is problematic) on both. There are some conservatives that only prefer one or the other. The dominant position in the United States is small economically but heavy regulation socially, due to the influence of the Christian right. Libertarians are often (but not always), “small” on both.In Europe there are conservatives that want big government in both, to regulate social norms and behavior but also accept a strong role in the economy. France’s far-right figure Marine Le Pen fits that, though they often talk about “cutting” problems that benefit immigrants and others they offer promises to their nativist base.The two are essentially distinct ideological positions that the misleading term “small government” erases.

If Trump truly believes there was widespread voter fraud, shouldn't it be investigated?

If he wants it, he can pay for it.The election is over. The data is shaky at best and an outright lie at worst. He has other matters to attend to that are more pressing.Honestly, how much do we have to stroke our new President’s ego before he focuses on his fucking job? He still won. I may not like the results, and I may see it as a failure of the electoral college system, but he won. 3 million votes could (might) barely put him over the line in winning the popular vote, and no one would relish that more than Donald J. Trump. But who really cares? What will that change?3 million was a number lifted from—as of the writing of this answer—a baseless assertion. The guy that started all this garbage can’t even back up his own methodology. “We're going to release everything to the public as soon as we get done with the checks” he claims; aren’t you supposed to finish vetting your data before you make your conclusion? Sounds a lot more like retrofitting results to match preconceptions, but who cares? Since the President tweeted about it, it must be news, right?And surely there isn’t anything else our President could be directing our attention to with that time, yeah? Maybe he should be looking at data that’s actually been scrutinized instead of letting himself get yanked around in the breeze by every asshole with a Twitter account trying to get a piece of the media action.It’s an embarrassment. Major news networks love to talk about the importance of the first 100 days of a presidency, and this guy can’t even get through a full week without getting riled up about Internet Opinions™ that directly impact his apparently fragile self-image. This is now the leader of our country:But man, people sure thought any alternative candidate was going to send this country into ruin. Looks like we really dodged a bullet there.

Why do so many American conservatives support voter ID laws considering that they claim to oppose expanded government and government regulation of minor issues?

Because voter ID laws reduce the risk of fraud and give voters the sense that their vote will count providing more incentive to participate. I know... I know... there's no such thing as voter fraud (although here in Texas during Lyndon's heyday, an entire cemetery was famous for lining up and voting in alphabetical order). But then you read things like this Jim Geraghty - Jaw-Dropping Study Claims Large Numbers of Non-Citizens Vote in U.S. + Could non-citizens decide the November election? (Now we know what the immigration push is about.) Md. Board of Elections Probe Republican-To-Democratic Ballot Switch Claims - CBS Baltimore ‘Ballot harvesting’ by Colorado campaign workers raises vote abuse fears Ineligible DACA Beneficiaries Discovered on NC Voting Rolls  John Fund - James O’Keefe Strikes Again Surveillance Video Apparently Catches Guy Doing Something at the Ballot Box That Left Republican Monitor Stunned Chicagoland voting machine casts candidate’s vote for his Dem opponent 850 voters in NYC are officially 164 years oldGuy Benson - Fraud: Local NBC Investigation Discovers Dozens of Illegal Voters in Florida...and that's pretty much all just from this past week.[10/29] Why don't I just keep adding them as they just keep rolling in?GOP: Some Boulder County election judges are Democrats posing as RepublicansLa Raza Promotes Washington Post Guide On Where People Can Vote Without An ID Video: Votes for Republicans Switched to Democrats in Illinois John Fund - Obama Endorses ‘Chicago Way’ of Voting—Making the Rules Up As You Go    Democratic CT State Rep. Christina Ayala Arrested On 19 Voting Fraud Charges[10/30]John Fund - Non-Citizens Are Voting in North Carolina.Massive Non-Citizen Voting Uncovered in MarylandPage on kob.com [county in NM loses its fraud virginity]O'Keefe video: NC poll workers offered him ballots TWENTY timesWisconsin Mailman Accused of Trashing Hundreds of Pro-Republican Mailers

Isnt it hilarious that after 50 years of conservatives claiming voter fraud, liberals were the first ones to act on it?

By 'act on it' you mean 'encourage it' through various scams, right?

It's going to be an uninteresting year of watching liberals bleat, moan, whimper, wail, cry, tremble, and wail more about the election, and it looks like you are getting an early start.

How many cases of voter fraud have been proven in the last 10 years?

No, you mean 10 that have been given caught out of we don't understand what number tried it. Getting away with voter fraud ain't that annoying. Hell, only inspect the obituaries on your city interior the final couple of months. discover the call of somebody who wasn't properly ordinary, discover their handle interior the telephone e book, and in the event that they happened to be a registered voter, you're arranged. only stroll all the way down to the polling place for that handle and say you're that individual and supply them their handle. in the event that they have been a registered voter, they are going to have you ever write your handle in a container, sign and hand you a poll. with out identity verify, voter fraud particularly is that straightforward. Hell, there is not any reason you are able to desire to no longer try this a dozen cases over on election day. only circulate to distinctive polling stations on your section with a lifeless individual's call and handle for each. @Weise, you do no longer choose any of that helping documentation to vote. it particularly is why that's particularly uncomplicated to commit fraud and why Conservatives p.c. an identity requirement.

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