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If You Dual Miltary Couple Is Stationed Apart Can The Receive Family Separation Allowance

Dual military- different duty stations, No BAH.?

My husband and I are dual military. Both in the marine corps, He's stationed in 29 palms and i'm stationed in Miramar. Before we got married the monitors both said they couldn't do anything with our duty stations until we were married. So we got married, and now the monitors are saying that they can't move either of us. The platform that i work on isn't in 29, and he's a grunt so he can't come here. You're probably think, move him to pendelton? Apparently, since he's slated for a deployment in Sept. He can't be moved. Ok, we can deal with that. But now we're getting no BAH. IPAC says since we're not stationed within 50 miles of one another we don't rate it. With that comes my question, when does Seps pay come in? It's not like we want to be separated... The monitors wont move us..

So i looked up the order in the JFTR, i guess i kinda just need some verification. Or some more explanation. So far this is what ive found.

JFTR Chapter 10 Member to member Part C.

U10202 BAH/OHA WHEN BOTH HUSBAND AND WIFE ARE MEMBERS AND SEPARATE
HOUSEHOLDS ARE MAINTAINED
When both husband and wife are members and separate households are maintained at or in the vicinity of their PDS
or PDSs, each is individually authorized BAH/OHA. Only one member may receive BAH/OHA at the withdependent
rate. In no case may a spouse who also is a member in receipt of basic pay be a dependent for
allowance purposes in this Part (37 USC §421).


Doesn't that apply to us?? Can someone please help! advice or answers greatly appreciated!

Can spouses both be active duty in two separate branches of the military?

You're allowed to marry whoever you want, but if one of you is AF and the other is USMC the only time you'd get to see each other is on leave, and sometimes you may be too far apart to travel for that anyway. AF and USMC bases are not typically next to each other. USMC and Navy bases are. If you want to both be Active Duty and have a chance of being stationed together then join the same branch. I'm not sure how good the other branches are about this, but I've been told in the Army they "do their best" to keep you together and if the higher ranking spouse gets moved the lower ranking spouse goes with them.

This is probably one of the most difficult scenarios you could ever create for yourself in a marriage. Being dual-military is one thing, being two completely unrelated branches is another.

Can a national guard and active duty soldier marry?

As long as you're a girl...

Yes, you would simply affiliate with whatever National Guard unit is close to his active duty instillation that also has openings for your MOS. It's rather common to have couple's in your situation. Your unit will be able to arrange the transfer. It's simply a docment that you fill out requesting an interstate transfer. You don't have to stay in your home state.

What is the best military branch for families?

Back in the day, the answer was simple: Air Force. They had the best accommodations, nice bases etc. Today? They are basically the same except that in the Navy, if the spouse is on a ship, you will not see them for at least six months at the time. Marines are notoriously not family friendly. Army and AF do have a lot of mobilizations, but the Army more so, since it is the Army that is involved in most missions on the ground.As far as facilities? well, they have been privatized, so the housing you get today is a far cry from the mismanaged crap we used to get, back in the day when incompetent base commanders allocated funds destined for housing towards anything but.Most bases now are joint operations, few are strictly one branch or another. Also, many operations are done jointly. Remember the Seal Team Six operation in Pakistan? the one they finished Bin Laden! well, guess who got them there and back and who provided support? it was not the Navy, nor the AF. It was the Army.

Military allotments and being married?

Once you get married and are entered into the system (DEERS) you will qualify for getting a military ID. This will included being able to use the commissary, exchange and other base facilities. Now when it comes to pay, that is a different matter, the spouse never gets an allowance or an allotment or pay unless the AD member has the pay going into a joint account or sets up an allotment. The allotments that they do set up only are paid once a month on the 1st. Now with being married he can get BAH w/dependents rate which is the housing allowance. That amount depends on rate/rank, years in & location of the base he is stationed out of (or it can be your location if it is due to call up or unaccompanied tour) and Family Separation ($250 per month).

There is always going to be things that you hear about out there, the best thing to do is to talk to Finance, Personnel or someone else about it before assuming it is true. There is also online websites like military.com, cinchouse and yahoo groups that have information, links or even people who can help you.

Extra money for being married in military??

His base pay will be the same as any other military member of his rank and time in service...and having dependents does not affect that. The only thing it can affect is his BAH (housing allowance). BAH is determined by rank and location. There are only two amounts..single rate and dependent rate. Dependent rate is the same amount if he has one dependent or six. Generally it may be a couple hundred dollars a month more than single rate BAH, depending on the location and his rank. The only other thing dependents affect is seperation pay. If he is sent to school or deployed for more than 30 days where he can not see you, you will get seperation pay...$250 a month I believe. However, if he is sent someplace where he is given chow hall privelages or must eat from a field kitchen, the BAS he gets each month (money for his food...not the family's but his) will be taken out so the take home pay can stay about the same. I will be honest...supporting a family on lower enlisted pay can be challanging, so do your research now and be sure you can meet your financial obligations on his pay. If you plan to work, that will be great but since it may take time to find something when you first move to a new base, never count on that or have to have it to survive.

I need an example of how to fill out BAH without dependent for Army. Dual Military. We are on separate posts.?

Wow there are a lot of rude people on this sight, and no the army does not pay people to fill out forms. That only happens if you have enough people in each unit... which will never happen with a Democrat in office.
Ok so now off of my rant and on to the question. On the DA form 5960 it says it is governed by AR 37-104-4. I looked up that AR and it doesn't really help out unfortunately as far as I can tell. Here is a link so that you may look at this AR and maybe you will have better luck.

http://www.army.mil/usapa/epubs/pdf/r37_...

Next also remember to fill out DD form 1561. It is for family separation. If you and your husband are stationed at different bases that are more than.. I think 50 miles apart you qualify for an extra $250 per month.

My advise is to fill out this form as best as you can. Most blocks are self explanatory, such as name, grade, etc. For the other blocks leave them blank for now. You should be able to take the form to your S-1 or finance office and tell them that you have some questions about how to fill out the rest of this form. If they see you have put forth the effort to fill out most of the form, they should be willing to help you. Do not expect them to do it all for you. (I work in S-3 and hate it when people come to me asking me to do there work for them. I have other things to do!)
Of course I do not know your entire situation. Some places make geographical bachelors in the barracks. Depending on your rank and how full your installation's barracks are you may be able to get BAH and stay off post. I know of many single soldiers that stay off post because there is not enough room in the barracks, so I do not see why they would not let a geographical bachelor do the same.
If your S-1 will not help you after you show them your half filled out form, please see your platoon sergeant or first sergeant and let them know about your situation. They may know more about how to fill out the form or be able to get S-1 off their butts and get you an appointment at finance... after all that is their job!
Good luck.

How common are intimate relationships in the Navy while at sea?

Extremely common.You’ve got the outward lovebirds, pretty much always of the same rank.You’ve got plenty of innapropriate officer/chief/Khakis of all sorts getting in the dungarees of the low enlisted. Most are married.You’ve got people screwing in tool rooms, state rooms, division offices, helicopters, and pretty much any dark space that may seem discrete.You’ve got girls doing girls in their racks. And less likely you have guys doing guys in more discrete areas.We had 2 male sailors caught doing oral in a space. That was a sad situation. They striped them of their rank, and restricted them to the ship before they were kicked out. It was so humiliating and shameful I felt aweful for them.And then you hear stories where one girl is getting trained by half a division.I remember one night I was on the flight deck, just behind the island, sitting down watching the vast ocean and beautiful sky. I was sitting with my boyfriend at the time. We were waiting until the coast was clear to go to our “spot”, which was on top of the crash shack.While we were sitting there these two sailors from my division came outside. I guess their eyes hadn’t adjusted to the dark and they didn’t see us… because he opened this tiny little fan room space right in front of us. She went in, and he followed after looking both ways. They thought they were so sneaky and we were both RIGHT THERE. It was hillarious.They remain together to this day, married with a family.I still keep in touch with my then partner. He went on to make chief and retire. I was very proud of him. One of my true loves.You really can’t blame anyone. We’re talking young people in their sexual prime, out to sea for months, working their asses off. It’s hard to even relieve yourself.Yes. It happens. All over the place. All the time.Thanks for the A2A Gary I hope I delivered!

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