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Military Police Vs Army Civilian Police Vs Army Security Guard

How do military police and civilian police differ?

My two cents which concerns US military and police only. At the very basic duties and responsibilities there really is not much of a difference when it comes to “policing”. Past that it starts to diverge drastically. To understand this one must understand the purpose of a Military Police solider vs that of a civilian police officer.A civilian police officer is only a police officer. That is, they do it 24/7, 365. They may have special duties and assignments but most of the time it centers around policing. The get very proficient at LE duties because it’s the only thing they do.This can not be said about a MP. Their time is split because they are soldiers as well as LE and as such, have a combat role. They do NOT conduct policing duties 24/7. Often times, MPs get limited policing training with more focus being on that of combat training.Additionally most military bases see relatively fewer crimes. I’m not saying they don’t happen, just the frequency of which they occur is lower when compared to that of a city of equal size. So when add together; solider splits their time between working LE and combat duties which equals limited LE experience, to that of lower crime rate and you get a “jack of all trade” situation.To sum it up. A civilian police officer is an expert in policing due to training and lots of experience. A MP is a jack of all trades, master on none due to too many missions, limited training on each and limited experience.

Military service VS. College?

I left an HBCU university last year to go to the army (I leave march 1st). now all my friends simply are so ignorant that they think im dumb and they believe college is the only way to success in this world. i try to tell them that in reality they are sub par students that arent excelling in college therefore after school it would be alot harder for them to get jobs unlike myself who will have a top secret clearance, job experience, no loans, 42alpha job (Human Resourses desk job), and MILITARY SERVICE itself to look good on my resume. there are pro's and cons to everything but i feel like my future is much brighter than theres! i try to promote the military and all its jobs and opportunities but all everyone thinks of is WAR, not to dismiss it as a possibility but the people who go over to iraq are people who choose those jobs nobody signed for them they did! im just tired of all the labeling of being dumb and stupid if anything i think im smarter and have more courage for seeing that our parents telling us that college is the only way out may be failing us because college or school is simply not for everybody! while im typing i noticed that im writing a statement more than a question but i just want to hear peoples responses...

What is the difference between a civilian and a military government?

In a military government all offiials of the government (or at least the controlling ones) are members of the military. They may not be the most senior officers (Juan Peron of Argentina wasn’t, for example) but they do hold influence. Civilian governments have civilians in all key posts. The military reports to them. For example, the US President i a civilian, even if he might have been a former member of the military. The Secretary of Defense is a civilian and is above the Joint Chiefs of Staff (who are the senior people in uniform)

How do military police fit into the hierarchy?

The answers provided by Dan Robb and John Gannon are accurate. Military Police operate much differently than civilian police. On many, if not most, domestic military posts, traditional police functions are carried out by civilian police employed by the Dept. of the Army, Navy, or Air Force. There used to be police employed by the Dept. of Defense, but I don't know if these have been parceled out to the individual services or still operate under the DoD umbrella. These civilian police are not considered to be "military police." Where military police operate domestically, they are primarily responsible for force and matériel protection as opposed to law enforcement. Military police might guard high-security premises like armories, and staff stockades/brigs and military prisons. Overseas, they have these functions as well as law enforcement on U.S. installations. They may have liaisons with local civil police when U.S. military personnel are arrested off-post for minor offenses, taking the offending soldier/sailor/Marine/airman into custody and off the hands of the local cops. They run checkpoints and security gates, and guard prisoners of war. Military police do not retain their police powers or weapons when off duty.  If they carry a sidearm when working, the sidearm is secured when they are relieved. They "apprehend," rather than arrest (the distinction is mainly a legal one). Each branch of the service has their own criminal investigative function. The Army has the Criminal Investigation Division, which employs both military (officer and enlisted) and civilian personnel as special agents, the Air Force has the Office of Special Investigations, which has civilian and military officer (I don't think there are enlisted special agents in the OSI, but I could be wrong) special agents, and the Navy and Coast Guard have their separate Criminal Investigative Services (NCIS and CGCIS, the former having three TV shows presently), consisting solely of civilian special agents. These investigative service special agents have police powers very similar to special agents in the FBI, Secret Service, and so on, although the types of crimes they investigate may be more limited. Special agent types do retain their police powers on and off duty, carry their weapons off duty (when desired or required), and have arrest authority over just about anyone, military or civilian,  who commits a crime that falls under their mandate.

What jobs in the Army benefit you the most in the civilian world when you get out?

The question you should be asking is, "Is joining the Army in a time of illega and immoral war mongering a wise decision, considering the Army accounts for a vastly large percentage of boots on the ground in war zones?" Success after getting out in the civilian world is contingent upon getting out in one piece, and not being tried for war crimes or suffering from mental disorders such as PTSD or substance abuse. Spend a little time on CAMMMO.org before signing ANYTHING.

What are some good Army Mos that transfer well into civilian?

Very few entry level enlisted job (in any branch) transfer directly into the civilian world without additional education and training. We train you to do a job IN the military. Which is why the US taxpayer generously provides such benefits such as Tuition Assistance and the GI Bill so you CAN get that additional education and training you need to get a good job and career.

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*sigh*

MP will NOT transfer. Why? You need to be a graduate of a civilian police academy and need to be certified by whatever jurisdiction you plan on working in. Neither of which the Army will give you.

Mechanic? Maybe at an unlicensed mom and pop shop. At any decent paying place you will need the various ASE certs. None of which the Army will give you.

Medical? Once again you are going to need education and a license. None of which the Army will give you during training.

See a theme?

I'll use myself as an example..

I served my first 9 years enlisted as a Chemical Warfare Specialist. Most of that spent in the Chemical Weapons Demilitirization (i.e. destroying) realm of operations. In the civilian world..that training and experience alone = unemployment line. No education, no certifications.

However, 4 years later, a B.S. in Environmental Management with a focus on HazMat Management and a certification as a Hazardous Material Manager. THAT and my experience = $75K a year

Right now I am a Brigade Logsitics Officer for a 4500 person combat brigade. That and my training alone MIGHT start me as an entry level logistis manager making $40K a year.

However, I have also earned a Master Degree in Logistics Engineering and a certification as a CPL (Certified Professional Logistician). THAT and my experience will see me starting off at $90+K a year as a Senior Logistics Manager.

See how that works?

How to become military gate guard ? Ft.Bragg?

Many military bases are now using civilian "rent-a-cops" as their gate guards. If this is the case for Fort Bragg, then he would have to be employed by the security company that has a contract with the base. You would then have to go through all the paperwork and jump through the hoops to be able to work at the gate on the base.

If the base is using its own Military Police, he would have to enlist and become an MP. However, when you enlist you have very little if any say in where you are stationed, be it overseas within the U.S. If the base does indeed use its own MP's, then I would recommend that your friend pursue another job; being a gate guard is a boring and low-paying job anyway.

Best of luck to you and your friend.

Can Army CID agents arrest civilians?

Army CID is not like NCIS where they are civilian federal agents and can operate off base like the FBI. Sure CID can arrest a civilian violating a law on base but most likely it would be DOD police

Teekno is incorrect. CID are not federal agents like NCIS, FBI, CIA...etc. So the likelihood of CID going out in town to arrest someone is slim! I know what I am talking about

What is the difference between citizen and civilian?

Civilian: n. a human not in the armed forces and the police force and fire fighting and/or a noncombatantCitizen: n. legally native or naturalized in a country(s)A civilian can be a citizen but not all citizens are civilians, especially those in the armed forces, military, the police force, or fire fighting.If you are in the military, national guard, police force, FBI, CIA, or the fire department and on active duty then you are not considered to be a non combatant civilian but can be a citizen of the country with official documents proving it.

How can I get military style survival and combat training as a civilian? I live in the San Francisco Bay Area, and in the event of a major earthquake or tsunami, I fully expect Katrina-style disorder until federal troops arrive.

You don’t. Sorry.Excuse the short answer, but it’s the simple truth of the matter. You can train in marksmanship and PT to standards that exceed the best militaries in the world. You can also train in martial arts. Go bow hunting and learn stealth.But you aren’t going to learn the most important skills if you aren’t in the military.Working as a team.The US doesn’t win battles because our soldiers are stronger or faster or more accurate, they win because they fight as an effective unit.Edit to add:Several commenters have brought up the idea of militia as overcoming this problem…Way back in the Revolution, George Washington and other founders quickly realized that there were limits and problems with the militia based army… That’s why the idealistic goal of the founders of citizen soldiers and militia gave way almost immediately to professional soldiers, who had the time and resources (via the state) to become proficient in the arts of war.While I broadly support the idea of a militia, because I believe that it can serve a role in bringing communities together, and help alleviate the demand on the military in times of natural disaster or other widespread need, or even just broadly reconnecting a civilian population with an increasingly small military, I have to accept that this is a utopian concept, incompatible with the world as it is. Also, this still has it’s clear limitations, and a one weekend a month, two weeks a year training cycle does not “extremely proficient combat skills” make. Even if supplemented with extensive individual PT and range time… it’s just not going to happen, especially in a nation the size of the USA, with it’s complex economy and society.As we are all aware, various “militia” groups tend to quickly degrade to, as J. Bennion, put it “Beer drinking shooting clubs”, because that sort of training is work, requires a lot of boring stuff to do, and generally isn’t fun.So yes, if you can find 30–40 like minded people, and get together for serious training on a weekly basis, all commit to maintaining your PT skills and marksmanship outside that, find and agree to a leadership that’s competent in leadership, combat, and on how to train people, find a location that lets you do that sort of training in, afford the significant expense of all this, find some way to train with crew served and HE weapons…Then yeah, maybe you can learn such skills.Good luck with that.

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