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My German Shepard South African Boerboel Mix Puppy

German shepherd vs bullmastiff?

I dont condone dog fighting in any way... but hypothetical questions about dogs who's original purpose was guarding or fighting, I believe are ok to answer...

To answer- Bullmastiff wins hands down. You must know that the bullmastiff was bred as a gamekeepers dog... would catch and hold poachers till the game warden arrived to arrest or fine them. It has no fear and is capable of overwhelming a grown man and toppling him over with a leap and a bound. Bullmastiff's easily get to 120 or 135lbs when grown. Molosser breeds have large broad heads and very powerful bites due to bite force being directly related to jaw size. A true bullmastiff possesses a characteristic that guardian/fighting molossers often possess... that characteristic is "gameness".

Shepherds are a herding breed not originally bred for fighting or "manstopping"... a large male may get to 80 or 90lbs. Because they are shepherds, they do not innately possess gameness.

So I'd side with a 130lb. guardian/fighting molosser over a 90lb. herding breed any day



Here is a real good question... South African Boerboel vs. Tosa Inu!

What's a better guard dog? A Doberman, a German Shepherd, a Rottweiler, a Great Dane, or a Mastiff? Help!!!

Most of the dog breeds you mentioned will naturally act as guardians when at home, but some dog breeds have been especially developed or selectively bred for their natural inclination to guard and defend the territory and people they consider as having under their custody.

A panel comprised of dog breeders, veterinarians, and dog trainers have established a list of dog breeds especially suited for guard dog duties. Dog breeds that qualify as guard dogs must possess a natural inclination to protect along with a strong sense of territory. They tend to be wary of strangers. They stand out for their courage and their resistance to counter-attack.

Other qualities considered as essential by the panel were: trainability, loyalty towards the owner, stress-resistance, watchfulness, and the deterrent factor. The deterrent factor includes not only the impression an individual dog makes because of his bulk, voice and color (black is more impressive than white) but also how recognizable the breed is as a guard breed. A Rottweiler or Doberman will be more easily recognized by a would-be intruder as a guard breed than an Akita or cross-breed, for example.

The list this group developed is as follows and may cause you to look at your choices a bit more broadly.

1. Fila Brasileiro
2. Rottweiler
3. American Pit Bull Terrier
4. Doberman (females moreso than males)
5. Dogo Argentino
6. Belgian Shepherd Dogs
7. South-African Boerboel
8. German Shepherd Dog
9. Cane Corso
10. Presa Canario (of Diane Whipple/San Francisco fame)
11. Tosa Inu
12. Neapolitan Mastiff
13. Dogue de Bordeaus
14. American Bulldog
15. Ca de Bou
16. Bouvier des Flandres
17. Giant Schnauzer
18. Thai Ridgeback
19. Bull Mastiff
20. Akita Inu

Keep in mind a dogs size can also limit its ability to maneuver. Great Danes aren't on this list for that exact reason. Though large, they aren't known for being the fastest dog on the block.

I have 2 Dobermans, so my vote would be in that direction. They took to protection training, and it takes just one word to put them in that mode.

And before people wig out, a Doberman trained to use what they do instinctively is FAR safer around strangers than one untrained.

Which would win a fight, German shepherd or a boerboel?

The Boerboel, hands down. You are talking about a breed of South African Mastiff that was bred for the express purpose of guarding owner’s and livestock from wild African predators. While the GSD may be more tenacious, the Boerboel, pound for pound, is more dense, heavy, and has a stronger bite force. They kill like big cats, by biting the back of the neck in an effort to break the spine. It is an unfair contest.

My german shepard south african boerboel mix puppy?

I don't think he is actually being aggressive, he is too young to be aggressive, he just doesn't realize he is biting hard and hurting you.

When puppies play together and the play is getting out of hand, or one bites the other too hard, they yelp.
So try imitating that, when it hurts, yelp, then stop play immediately for a few minutes, basically just get up and leave or turn your back to him and ignore him, give him a few moments to calm down then resume play maybe choosing something that does not involve physical contact like throwing him a ball or asking him to sit and then reward for good behavior :)
Make sure you consistent in this and everyone else does the same too so the puppy doesn't get mixed messages. Do not punish him just do these simple steps - yelp, stop play, ignore for a couple of minutes and the puppy will soon learn that biting is not rewarding and will stop doing it.
Would be wise to start teaching him some basic commands asap too - all as a part of play and with rewards. Ignore the negative, reward the positive behaviour... that always works the best :)
If you start looking into training videos on youtube or into finding a training class, try to search for trainers who use positive reinforcement and not the ones that think that they need to dominate and bully the dog (all that "alpha" crap is out dated) They do more harm than good.
Search Google for Victoria Stilwell (http://positively.com/), she is great and has loads of good tips on youtube too.

Also, make sure that you NEVER use a crate as a punishment (as it has been advised above).
A crate should be a safe heaven for a puppy, somewhere where he loves to be and feels safe. Give him toys in it, feed him in it, make him like to go in so if you ever need to use it for his own safety or for whatever reason, the pup doesn't get all stressed out by being there.

Is it a good idea to breed a Boerboel and a Rottweiler?

As long as you have a purpose for the breeding it could be a great idea. By that I mean if you are trying to improve one of the breeds.I'll give you an example. For years I hunted hogs with American Pitbull Terriers. About 7 years ago a lot of hunters stopped hunting with dogs and started hunting in deer stands in order to only get trophy kills. With this type of hunting the Hog population exploded and with no natural predators these hogs became massive and fearless.Before a couple of pits was all you needed to subdue a wild hog, but with the massive size of the hogs they would run off with these small pitbulls attached to them.I began to do research and my best ready made option was a Dogo Argentino or an American bulldog. Both of which are white and have health issues.After research I discovered that the Cane Corso was a bigger version of the qualities that made the pitbull an effective catch dog.I imported 2 Corsi for the purpose of cross breeding. It worked better than I could have ever expected. I'm about 2 generations from breeding true.The point of all this is to say that if you have a goal or a purpose for the breeding it can be a great idea.

Is the American Pitbull really the toughest of all dogs?

Not at all! Pit bulls are strong for their size, and aggressive as a breed, but DONT confuse aggression with "toughness" or in dog terms "game"
APBTs are actually undersized as far as fighting dogs go and "toughest" meaning who would most likely win in a dogfight (Which I am NOT condoning in any way!) would definitely go to either a Presa Canario, Tosa Inu, Cane Corso, Bandog or a South African Boerboel.
Do some research on these breeds, especially the Boerboel (which tops out at 190lbs and was bred to protect South African farmers against Lions, Elephants and Other large animals... Boerboels have been known to have the ability to kill Jaguars! Boerboel is the toughest dog I can think of out there... a mastiff with a fighting/killer instinct to protect againt LIONS, JAGUARS and ELEPHANTS! )
And Bandogs (Cross between a Pit bull and a Neopolitan Mastiff... MUCH better and tougher dog than the APBT)
Dr. Carl Semencic has a book out called "Gladiator Dogs" and onecalled "Pit Bulls and Tenacious Guard Dogs". read it, its GREAT!

I can't make up my mind between these breeds!?

I want to add another dog to my pack and I can't make up my mind as to which breed to get. I have a list that I want, I just can't make my mind up as to which. I'll be in a new house then with a large backyard with my fiance. The house is pretty big and my dogs will all be sharing a room as they do now. I'll be getting the dog in late spring but I want to decide on a breed now so I can look at rescues and breeders thoroughly without having to rush things. Can any owners of these breeds give me some insight into them? Reading articles about them really isn't much insight. I know about them from working with them, but a full-time owner knows more.

My list:
- German Shepherd
- Border Collie
- South African Boerboel

Currently I have:
- Four year old Labrador, male, neutered
- Four year old Cairn/Scottie mix, female, spayed.
- Year and a half old Chi/Peke mix, male, neutered.
- Eleven month old Chihuahua, male, has an appointment to be neutered.

Need to know things:
- I'm not stupid with dogs. I worked in a kennel for two years with all different breeds and cared for them. I was raised in a house where we had many different breeds of dogs and I've always been fascinated by them.
- My dogs are well behaved. Only the Cairn has an issue with being grumpy occasionally. They aren't aggressive at all with each other and when they meet a new dog, only the Chi/Peke growls a little but gets over it if the dog is in our house.
- I'm willing to invest a lot of time and money into a new puppy. (training, etc)
- We'll be starting our family in about three years. May or may not be relevant, as the dogs won't be allowed alone with any children ever.

Input? Thanks!

Which breed is best for guarding a home - the Bull Mastiff, Cane Corso, Perro de Presa Canario, Boerboel, or the American Bully XXL?

My lab is a better guard dog than my neighbors GSD and that is because the way we treat our lab and the way they treat their GSD is different.I feel that as my lab is treated well, he has this feeling that he should protect us and the house. My neighbor's treat their GSD as just a guard dog, not as a pet/family member and so he seems to have a detachment of sorts and may or may not bark at strangers.PS:Forget all the fancy breeds of big sizes who will cost a ton of money to buy and maintain. Adopt a few Desi dogs. A pack of desis will guard the house better. Make sure to get them vaccinated and spayed/neutered to keep their population in check.

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