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Are You Someone Who Did Well In School Without Trying Too Hard If So Do You Think People That Must

Where do people who try hard in high school and college end up later on?

They end up in all sorts of places. That’s just the nature of being human, regardless of how well one does academically. I’ll give you a smattering of a sample that, while not universal in the least, might give you an idea of how broad the spread turned out.I was a top 5 student in my high school - a public school with 2000+ students, most of us lived below the poverty line (upwards of 60% of the student body had free or reduced lunch based on income).Of the five of us:I went on to Amherst College, got mediocre grades compared to my straight-A streak in high school, and am now a pretty successful web developer in Southern California. According to Google, I make above the web dev average, but I’m certainly not making a Silicon Valley-status six figure income. I live comfortably, am engaged, rent a house, and have a dog.The #1 student went to college in Santa Barbara (he was a legacy student), then got married, moved to Northern California, had a daughter, and is now traveling on business across the United States.The #2 student attended Brown University, and I have not heard from her recently. Last I checked (2 years ago) she was struggling to find a job, and was pet-sitting to make some money. I don’t know what she’s up to now.The #4 student went to Harvey Mudd College to study… Mathematics? But she and her boyfriend at the time had a child together. She dropped out of school, they got married, and I believe in the past so many years, had a second child. Last I heard, she was doing accounting for a small business in her area.The #5 student went to USC, studied psychology, and did some work in labs. I’m not sure what she’s up to now. But she’s in the area, and I believe stayed in our hometown (possibly still with her parents?).Of my friends in college who worked much, much harder than I did, the majority of them went on to graduate school, either in the States or abroad. A few of us went straight into the workforce (tech, business, finance usually), and a few of us went back to our hometowns to figure out our lives.Regardless of how hard you work, after college, what’s waiting for you is life.

People always say I try too hard, is this a bad thing? What does it mean to try too hard?

I can only give examples of what I have done to make people say this.
1.Went to school full time and had a part time job, and a casual job....so that I could travel before college.
2.Got tired of being overweight, started exersising for an hour each day and watching what I eat, avoided junk food like the plauge..lost 80pounds.
3.Didn't want to be shy anymore, so I put myself out there and started showing interest in other people and the world.
4.After my little nieces favourite teddy got destroyed by the family dog, I spent a day doing nothing but finding fur to match his colour and rebuilding him.
5.When my friend said she was having a bad day,I went over to her house as fast as I could and treated her for the whole day.
..etc......
I think all of these things are valid, do I really try too hard? and is that a bad thing? What dies it mean to try to hard?

Did you ever achieve a great result without trying too hard? What was it?

Contrary to what we believe, great results are never obtained from trying too hard. I am not trying to diss hard work, but trying too hard just gets you the exact opposite results of what you want. Putting in your best effort is different from putting in too much effort that inevitably exhausts both your mind and body with no worthwhile success.I learnt this lesson during high school. Damn Grades mattered a lot and we had this incredibly important exams that could well.. seal your career. As what you would expect, the studious toppers of our school we're really giving it their all. One girl in particular crammed everything everyday all day into her already stressed out head. Everytime you look at her, she always had a book. Every test she got the top score. Any question she always knew the answers while me and my friends tried to hide under the bench ( I don't understand why the teacher picks you when you clearly don't raise your hand). All we did was play and bunk classes all year attending games throughout the state(we we're the school's sports team). Heck we played during the night before the exams. Coming back to her, she would spend sleepless nights pulling allnighters months before the exam. And we did our part after practice everyday (Mostly because you wouldn't be allowed to play for school if you got poor grades during tests). Finally the day arrived. We had had a strict rule that none of us would touch the books at least two hours before the exam. We spent the entire time joking around while everyone was buried in their books and notes. She was in a sea of books. The school expected her to Ace the exams comfortably.Yep you guessed it right.All the stress caught up to her and she really messed up the exams. Her performance was well..decent but far from acing anything. So guys, its better to put in a balanced effort and be calm rather than hurting yourself. It is like trying to hunt the top game blindly, forgetting that the muzzle is pointed at you the entire time.P.S. My friend aced the exams btw and we all scored a pretty good grade to the disappointment of some of my teachers who were against sports (They have this baseless idea that sports ruins education). Well that showed em' who's the boss. Our coach.

Do you really think that mexicans without papers should leave America?

Because I think that wrong. My family shouldnt have to go back to mexico and neither any other family. If you were an immigrant and you were told that you have to leave would you like that? espeacialy if you were born here and that place was your home town would you want to leave? I wouldnt. All we did was come here. to live in and to get a job and rasie a family. other people came here to live too. why do they stay? We said the pledge of allegance at school everday ever since I was in kindergarden. And i still do and im 14. Have you seen the news when there was walkouts? That one big one? and the kids in high school walked out themselfs too. If you put all those people together including the thousands of mexicans that didnt go. there would be as much people here in America. (and I dont really know much about this and papers because my parents dont want me worried)

How can you get girls interested without trying too hard and really going after them?

Rule #1 - Be open and unafraid to be yourself. Don’t be a “yes man” and agree with everything she says, unless of course you actually DO agree with everything she says.Rule #2 - Don’t talk about past relationships!!!! Total buzzkill!!!Rule #3 - Don’t be in a hurry for anything. Be sure of yourself. Take your time.Rule #4 - Humor always helps. Most girls love humor and if you happen to be witty it is an extreme turn-on to some women (don’t overdo it though!!). And of course if you aren’t good at telling jokes don’t go there. It’s OK. Not everybody is a comedian.One little trick I used to use on first dates was to take her out to a comedy club or event. It was a great way of avoiding the sometimes awkward first time conversation and still entertaining your date. It has always worked great to break the ice because then after the show you both have the common experience to share and laugh about ….maybe over dinner?The main point to keep in mind is that your concern is with “her” and nobody else but don’t be overbearing. Just let her know through subtle mannerisms that your mind is on her and only her! Don’t let your eyes bounce around the room looking at the other girls!! If she has the slightest interest in you she WILL be watching your every move!!Also, if things don’t go well, just be OK with it. Don’t feel less of yourself if she just doesn’t hit it off with you. Don’t get emotional or upset!! Females look for males to be self confident. So don’t fold after the first rejection. Sometimes if you handle rejection well, some girls are turned on by that and will reconsider! And if not, oh well, there are more fish in the sea! You may have very well have avoided a bad relationship. And believe me, no relationship is WAY BETTER than a bad one.Hope I was of some help. It’s been awhile since I was single, but the psychology is the same. Happy hunting.

Is trying too hard a turn off for you?

Sometimes when people try too hard they REALLY want it to work. THEY really want it.

The only problem I see with this is, they get all flustered, and instead of grooving along, asking questions and relaxing.

They get the other person all nervous.

I truly believe if someone TRIED to HARD. It was for good intentions and if this person loved me and their only crime was this, AND THEY truly did want to do better,

IF they really listened, and really laid back, or even took classes or counseling on not trying to be a people pleaser or go beyond their abilities or accepted they aren't perfect, BUT it isn't all up to them anyway.

I would definately take them back. I mean thats an endearing quality.

BUT its also annoying when they can't relax, regroup, re focus and you have to wonder what other problems are they hiding behind?

insecurity a given, control? headed for a breakdown.

I would definately take them back if they can get their issues calmed I mean SERIOUSLY calmed, whatever feeds the issues.

Someone who goes off and gets the help they need and relaxes knowing I would be waiting for them to get it together IS A HUGE TURN ON....

It shows they can relax, trust, and try a new way, a way they REALLY need to be to be a better them and us.

Yeah I would definately take them back if they ONLY REALLY showed progress TRUE foreseeable progress.

ARE you kidding? we need people that try harder these days I think.

Do you need college to be smart, or can you be smart without college?

I bet Amanda is American just for that line "being too smart is never a good thing." It's a social consideration the government probably implanted over the people by means of propaganda to make sure it stays docile. My friend, if you do not know what you're doing and do not question it, you are a dangerous human being - dangerous for yourself, for those for whom you work, for your country and for the whole of mankind.

People who lack the intent to question, follow blindly and react emotionally. Nazis were not really prone to critical thinking; Urbain II (pope) was a follower of the Christian dogma and commanded war in 1096 against the infidels; Muslim extremists and terrorists follow a religious and blindfolded path; communists were convinced to serve the good of humanity by imposing their law because the Party told them so by distorting the real socialist ideal... nothing good happened in history when human beings stopped thinking.


You do not need to actually get taught to learn; you can read instead of literally being told something. Being smart doesn't mean that you are born smart; it means that you are efficient at thinking which can of course be learnt too... however, if the college you intend is meant and supposed to help you grow intellectually, it doesn't mean it will necessarily do its job and, it doesn't mean that in reading, you will avoid common mistakes good teachers could notice quickly.

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