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Bush Came Into Office Things Were Hunky Dory. Bush Left Office We Got The Worst

Democrats must be proud of their leaders, and are looking forward to their vote today on health care.......?

It's too bad that liberals in Congress pass their big bills, but do not explain to their base the full price tag of this monster.

Maybe it's too much Information for economically illiterate democrats

The Congressional Budget Office released its preliminary score of the bill (H.R. 3962) but too many in the media have not been reporting its true cost. Read it and weep......

The true cost is not the net spending on only the coverage related provisions ($897 billion) but rather the total gross spending for the coverage provisions ($1.05 trillion) as well as any additional spending in the bill (approximately $217 billion). That would raise the plan’s price tag to about $1.5 trillion when including the roughly $210 billion cost of the “doc fix” is included.
The “doc fix” refers to the undoing of the flawed Medicare payment update formula, which Congress created but has routinely stopped from being enforced. Under current law, that formula would result in a 20 percent reduction in doctors’ pay under the Medicare program.

The real story about the true cost is even more dramatic.
The bill is front loaded with taxes,
and back-loaded with spending in the first ten years.

Since most of the spending in the House bill does not fully go into effect until 2014, the 10-year cost estimates based on the preliminary CBO score (for years 2010 through 2019) only account for six years of new spending under the plan.
Once it is implemented (over a full 10-year window from years 2014 to 2023), the giant House health bill carries a price tag of $2.4 trillion, or as much as $2.6 trillion with the “doc fix.”

Most people on the left DO NOT understand that if this "Health Care" bill become law it will NOT be enacted until 2014, but they would have to pay for it right away....

2 GOVERNMENT RUN HEALTH CARE PROGRAMS (Medicare and Medicaid) WE ALREADY HAVE, put taxpayers on the hook for a record $59.1 trillion in UNFUNDED liabilities, a 2.3% increase from 2006.
That amount is equal to $516,348 for every U.S. household.
By comparison, U.S. households owe an average of $112,043 for mortgages, car loans, credit cards and all other debt combined.


Why would we want to go back to the way things were during the eight years of Obama?

Okay, this seems like a loaded question but let’s forget political parties for a minute and just discuss FACTS, shall we? (And I know it’s fashionable of late to scream “Fake news” when one doesn’t like the facts). But after EIGHT YEARS OF THE BUSH Presidency the nation’s economy was the worst since the Great Depression. The banks and auto industry were on the brink. This is what WHOEVER won in 2008 was going to take over. So Obama was handed this very deep ravine of economic instability and massive unemployment. And even with Mitch McConnell publicly saying they would do everything they can to make him a one -term president and withhold cooperation and Boehner admitted that when it came to Obama’s agenda, their plan was to “kill it, stop it, slow it down.” So even with ALL of that, it is rather remarkable that Obama was able to slowly turn the economy around, unemployment went from double digits to finally around 4.7. So the eight years of Obama was a slow, steady effort to repair a badly damaged economy that he inherited. So it seems odd that you seem to just act like everything was hunky dory in 2007 when it was just the opposite.

Are you in favor of Obama and the Democrats passing public option health care with 51 vote simple majority?

Susan, how can you not care? That's the attitude that's got us in this mess. You better care. Do you really think you (as in YOU personally, you Susan) won't be affected by this bill? You better recognize girl.....

Does the U.S. separation of powers still function effectively in the 21st century?

I believe that US Speration of Powers continues to function according the objectives of James Madison. Madison designed the structure of the US Government to slow the pace of change down so as not to destabilize a society due to rash decision making. This system has served America well, despite what non-Americans like to say. Even if this system was not effective, the structure of the US Government is not subject to change. The separation of powers is the hallmark of Washington. Many commentators, especially here in Canada, always point to institutionalized gridlock on healthcare, immigration, and a host of other issues as a means of bashing the American way, and feeling better about themselves. None of these commentators give much thought to governing 320 million people in 51 political jurisdictions, while playing the role of global cop and stabilizer. To be fair, the US system has always been a source of criticism for the rest of the world and even some Americans, but yet, the US democracy, and its Constitution, are the oldest in the world. Additionally, when something goes wrong, all of the world looks to America for answers.

What is the best advice you have ever rejected?

Thanks for the A2A!Well, certainly I had rejected very good advice. I’m 20 years old, and this is the age when people mess up things to start learning. One thing I remember my mom told me at the beginning of my third semester of college (which I’m currently coursing) was: “Take it easy on college, engineering school is very demanding, and you should balance between school and your life. Take it easy so you don’t fail you courses, and have time to enjoy your college and friends, it’s the most wonderful time to spend your twenties. Later, you will graduate and get big time responsibilities, but right now you should enjoy you college! Don’t cry, I know you can do it, if you fail that course don’t quit! If it wasn’t hard, what taste would success have?”. That one day I was tore up in tears because I couldn’t handle any more pressure because of the engineering school. I have always got good grades, and for the first time I came across with five very difficult courses at the same time. My mom told me at the beginning to choose the course load wisely, she told me not to enroll myself in too many subjects, and “take it easy”. I didn’t listen to her because I thought I could handle everything, and I wanted to enroll to seven classes to jump ahead my graduation deadline. Nonsense. In Mexico, instead of career, we colloquially call college “CARRERA”, and it literally means “RACE”. My mom always told me everybody runs or walks the race at their own pace. There’s no need to speed run, the important thing is to FINISH, but mostly, to ENJOY the path. If I had listened and enrolled to less courses, today I wouldn't be overloaded with stress, failing grades, and having the worst time of my college life, I have felt worthless several times because I study, and study and I still fail. But every mistake has it’s lesson. I managed to save all my courses, and learned to work very, very, veeeeery hard under pressure, but next semester I will enroll to five courses only, take things easier and enjoy my college life!!

Liberals, where was my straight Christian white male privilege when me and my two siblings often went to school hungry because my parents didn't have enough money to feed us?

Liberals, where was my straight Christian white male privilege when me and my two siblings often went to school hungry because my parents didn't have enough money to feed us?Trust me, it was there. Things like “white privilege” or “male privilege” does not mean that someone who is white and male (or cis, straight and Christian) will have a totally carefree life or not have to overcome issues or face hunger, poverty, disease and death. It doesn’t mean that you don’t have to work hard or earn what you have.Certainly a white, straight Christian male born into an upper middle class or wealthy family will have even more privileges then those born into a working class or impoverished family. But privilege still exits because our society places a value on being white, male, straight and Christian.When a family is poor and white the assumption is they are “honest people who have fallen on hard times.” When it is a black family the assumption is the family is headed by a “welfare queen” with a half dozen kids all with different fathers who live in the ghetto smoke crack and pop out another child to get an additional check. Because “that’s how they are.”Even a poor “white family” where the parents are at home doing drugs and guzzling booze people are not going to look at it and see a “racial issue.” Poor white families don’t get told “where are the fathers?” When white people talk about crime and poverty in their community people to come popping out of the bushes to lecture on “white on white crime.” When a white person commits a heinous crime (and plenty do) other white people typically don’t receive death threats over it, or are expected to show up en mass to denounce it.There is still a societal value to being Christian in the US (look how politicians clamor to get the religious-right vote). Same with being straight or being cis and male.