Can A Business With No Anti-gun Signs Ask A Person With A Gun To Leave Their Store Or Can They

Do you obey every gun-free zone sign?

Yes. I might disagree with them, but why create trouble?It’s a small matter for me to remove my gun from its holster and leave it in my car, where it’s completely legal. If I need to go somewhere, such as a school or post office, where guns are prohibited on the grounds, I leave it at home.Just as I expect people to respect my rights to carry, it’s only fair for me to respect their rights to not have me carry in their homes, their places of business and places that the law says are prohibited.This has nothing to do with my rights; it’s not even about fears of retribution or legal action. My attitude is more about common courtesy and respecting the desires of others.In my home, I expect others to respect my right and choice to carry. If it upsets them too much, I respect their right to leave. I will even show them the way out.There is no point in getting too defensive. Yes, many gun-free zones are pretty much worthless, but my recourse is to push for the laws to be changed, no defy them.I do understand that many places post prohibition signs for reasons other than political statements. Liability and insurance concerns, for example, are stronger motivators for places like shopping malls. In our lawsuit-happy society, liability is a major consideration for any business. For the same reason, most shopping centers have unarmed security personnel. The only exceptions are for sworn law enforcement officers working extra jobs.Some gun-free zones make a lot of sense. Even cops surrender their sidearms when entering jails and prisons. Government meetings have been the scene of gunplay, so they are important, as well. Police stations are usually also gun-free zones. Bars and leisure/sporting venues where alcoholic beverages are sold for on-site consumption are probably good gun-free zones - no, make that definitely good gun-free zones.So, yes, I do comply with gun-free zones. I also comply with posted prohibitions. If I wish to do business with a place that posts the required signage, I leave my gun outside. I have thought about passing out those “No Guns; No Business” cards, but why antagonize a business owner; it’s my choice to be customer of that business and guns usually aren’t a part of my decision.What it comes down to is that I was taught from an early age that my rights end where another person’s nose begins. That’s a pretty good philosophy.

Why are gun owners careless to leave their guns in their cars?

Some are careless, true. But they’d be in the minority.Here are the most common cases where folks legitimately lock up their guns in cars:Here in Texas we have “Castle Doctrine”. For the 96% of Texans, who for one reason or another don’t have a License to Carry, they are allowed (presuming they are allowed to have a gun) to have a concealed gun in their car. This is for self defense against road rage incidents, carjacking, or someone robbing them at an ATM or a gas pump. They are not allowed to take that gun out of the car and carry it into places, like the grocery store or WalMart. So they must lock it in the car, concealed.Federal buildings, Post offices, courtrooms, and Schools (and other statutorily restricted places (like race tracks, sporting events, certain bars…) - again normal civilians as well as permit holders are not allowed to carry in these places, so they have to lock them in their cars.Employers who ban guns on their premises - Texas requires them to allow their employees to lock the guns in their cars. If not allowed to do that, then their entire commute, including errands, is unprotected.Private property where the owners have posted the very specific formatted 30.06 (no concealed guns) and 30.07 (no open carry guns) allowed on premises. Both are required for a total “no guns” policy. If you know the store you're going into is posted, you lock up your guns. Typically there is enough competition we just avoid those stores altogether, and take our money elsewhere. It’s why I don’t go to Cheesecake Factory anymore. I’m a lot less persnickety when it comes to no open carry as it’s not something I do or is commonly done around here, anyway. But banning concealed carry is, to my mind stupid, (concealed is concealed); it makes the place just one more gun-free massacre-enabled zone.Where being careless is in play is if the gun is left easily visible or there is some indication the car is likely got a gun in it.

If your state does not give legal weight to "gun free zone" signs do you carry when entering businesses with said signs posted?

Arkansas now offers enhanced carrier which requires military-law enforcement type training. That allows legal carry in most gun free zones just as police do. Please read my response to a question quite similar to this one a week or so ago. Thanks.

Do concealed-carry permit holders respect “no firearm” areas? After the horrific events in Orlando I was wondering whether Disney World and other “no firearm” areas are actually complied with, or if firearms are being carried by CCP holders.

There are two kinds of gun-free zones. First, we have those which are mandated as such by the law of the state governing those permits. Those would include federal facilities like post offices, school zones, court houses, etc. Second, we have those where private citizens and corporations have decided that they don’t want guns on their property. Places like Disneyland, Buffalo Wild Wings, Hooters, etc.I absolutely abide by the law regarding legally-mandated gun-free zones. I will be going to a post office tomorrow to pick up a package. I will not be armed. That’s the law. I had to walk through downtown Sacramento near the rail yard for a week because of Federal Grand Jury duties a few years back. I had to be unarmed. That’s fine, mind you. I’m not worried that at any second a boogeyman is going to attack me. I carry an emergency credit card as well, though I never intend to use it. And a spare tire in my truck.In California, signage isn’t a legal bar. If I walk into Buffalo Wild Wings and see their sign, it means absolutely nothing. A person has to actually tell me that they know I have a gun and want me to leave. Since I’m carrying concealed, they never do that. They don’t know. I don’t tell them. Everybody is happy. If I were to protest and not leave, I would be guilty of trespassing. My local sheriff would also cut up my permit after an interaction like that. This is not true in some other states where signage has some legal force behind it. Those would include Wisconsin, Illinois, and both North and South Carolina and perhaps more.Some places, I don’t even bother trying to ignore their rules. Areas like Disneyland, concert venues, and sporting arenas all have security wanding people and using metal detectors. If I try just walking in, they’ll detect and send me packing. Then I have to walk all the way back to the truck to disarm, then walk all the way back. I’ll know that they know that there’s an unguarded firearm. Even though it’s in a small vault bolted to the truck, I know that access is just a crowbar away. No thanks. Better off not to even bother.Where CCW is legally barred, I follow the law. Where they are the whim of a private individual, I carry anyway unless there is reason enough not to.