Do you think Patriots should have invaded British Canada? Why or Why not?
Yes. It was necessary to disrupt British movements and logistics. They did take Montreal but couldn't hold it. Everything the Continental forces destroyed had to be replaced from thousands of miles away. The Royal Navy could not be stopped by the meager US naval forces. The materials that the ships brought could be destroyed, thus making the trip useless.
Can Canada get invaded?
It could, but why anyone would want to do it is beyond me, as things stand right now anyway. We aren’t a threat, our government isn’t controlled by a genocidal dictator, we’re not kidnapping foreigners en masse (in fact we’re welcoming loads of Syrian refugees right now, in the noble and self-congratulatory way we’re good at :P). We’re sitting on a good deal of oil, so I suppose someone could conceivably come knocking if they run out before we do, and if we aren’t exporting to them already - if they weighed the costs and decided it would actually be less disastrous to try invading and taking our resources by force, rather than sitting at home and dealing with an oil crisis domestically. That seems really unlikely though; I think any country that runs out of oil would just cement its own doom if it tried invading some other nation to get more. In any scenario they’d have to deal with America too if they tried. That’s the thing: anyone invading Canada would have to deal with America, and nobody wants to deal with America.So unless the world changes a hell of a lot, no, I don’t think Canada will be invaded.
Why doesn't the USA invade Canada?
We actually had plans for invading each other once upon a time (as in the 1920s and early '30s). Canada's plan for the invasion of the United States was called Defence Scheme No.1 and the US plan for the invasion of Canada was called War Plan Red.But here's the thing, both scenarios assumed the involvement of the British. The American plan was to thwart a British attack on the US that would use Canada as a staging area, and the Canadian plan was a pre-emptive strike in case of a suspected US invasion in order to delay the Americans until the British arrived to save the day.Today, that sounds surreal, but we did fight a war, back in 1812, and Canada is still the only country to defeat the US, invade Washington, and burn the White House to the ground, but I digress :-) Two hundred years is a long time. America has become a military behemoth unlike anything the world has ever seen and there is no country, or combination of countries, that can defeat the US in an all-out war. Canada has become Tonto to America's Lone Ranger. Why would Kimosabe want to beat up poor Tonto and steal his lunch money? There has arguably never been an economic or military alliance as close as the one between Canada and the US. We are each other's largest trading partners (the US does more business with the province of Ontario than with Japan), the Canada-US border is the longest undefended border in the world, and the US and Canadian militaries are so tightly allied that a Canadian general can scramble American fighter jets and order them to intercept targets and vice versa (see NORAD). The Canadian navy is the only navy whose ships can fit seamlessly into a US aircraft carrier task force. The two armies train together all the time, use the same doctrines, speak the same jargon, and routinely attend each other's staff colleges at the senior officer level.For these reasons, for many decades now, the paradigm has been that conflict between the two countries is unthinkable. If we need something from each other, we just have to ask nicely. No need for fisticuffs.By the way, our field rations are much better than yours. And did I mention we're the only country to invade Washington and burn the white house to the ground? Eh?
What would have happened if Britain and Canada had invaded the US after burning the White House in the War of 1812?
They did invade, but not only the raid in Maryland and DC in retaliation for burning Canada’s capitol building a few months earlier. They took the small forts at Detroit and Chicago. British Colonel Dickson and others raised an army from the tribes with fur trading relationships with Hudson’s Bay Trading Company and advanced down the Mississppi River to seize St. Louis and the evacuated Fort there (the Army had withdrawn to New Orleans so only William Clark (of Lewis & Clark, now Territorial Governor) was left to stop them with a few hundred settlers. Spanish-born fur trader Manuel Lisa of St. Louis raised a countervailing force from the Teton Lakota and drew the British forces back to defend their home villages. Sir Edward Pakenham was simultaneously leading the invasion of the port of New Orleans, where he was driven off by General Andrew Jackson, the Lafitte Brothers’ thousands of pirates and significant number of pirate ship cannons, and the local militia. It was far more likely the British plan would have succeeded and all or most of the Louisiana Territory, certainly it’s primary rivers and communities would have become British, making British Canada most of North America from Hudson’s Bay to the Gulf of Mexico and from the Appalachian Mountain Range to the Rocky Mountains, ending US westward expansion.Then there’d be no filibuster’s war to break off Texas nor the American war with Mexico that resulted in the loss of Mexico’s valuable Northern half, particularly California. No Gold Rush so America’s economy is considerably stunted without the infusion of gold and then silver for reliably currency from the still Mexican territory (assuming the 1810 Mexican rebellion against Spain still occurred.) Florida would remain British and perhaps Cuba and Puerto Rico would be seized by the British Navy when Spain lost Mexico.The U.S. had such a tiny army of a few thousand men and just six powerful and threatening naval ships, six advanced frigates, in 1812 that we were nothing like the threat of Napoleon’s empire but instead a minor side show. Our War Department at that moment was the Secretary of War and 2 clerks. Sending a few more regiments of British dragoons to quickly seize Boston, New York, Philadelphia, Baltimore-DC, Charleston,Savannah, and New Orleans would have won the war here while not changing Wellington’s forces against Napoleon very much.
Why were the loyalists right and not the patriots in the revolutionary war? Why were the patriots right?
If you accept that Abe Lincoln was justified in waging a War to Prevent Southern Independence, you must accept the British as being justified in waging a War to Prevent American Independence. If we were to look at our history through the viewpoint of modern "Political Correctness," we would have to conclude that the Patriots were a bunch of "extremists" and that the British were entirely justified. If you are a mainstream Democrat, "Centrist," or Republican, you must accept this to avoid hypocrisy. However, if we accept that King Lincoln was unjustified in invading the South for seceding, then that also implies that King George was unjustified in invading the 13 Colonies for seceding. If we accept that the Founders were true Patriots, then we should also recognize the modern Patriots who oppose taxation (as the founders did), warmongering, and other idiotic governmental abuses. We also must recognize that the majority of the country support extremist pro-government fringe groups. If we accept the Loyalists as true Patriots, we can continue worshiping a piece of cloth (what else is that "Pledge of Allegiance"), Abe Lincoln, and government employees (police, military etc.).
Why were americans able to defeat the british during the American revolution?
Two things contributed to the British defeat. The first was the length of the supply lines. Think, for a moment, of the distance the British soldiers had to travel - first by sea, then by land. All their goods had to follow them. The Americans were on home turf and could get new troops and more supplies very easily. The second was the style of battle. In Europe - the battleground for which British soldiers were trained, and where most had fought previous battles, the routine was for three lines of soldiers to advance. The first row knelt, the second stood and the third fired from the back line, then ran forward to kneel in the front line while they reloaded their guns and the second rank became the firing rank, etc. This worked well in Europe, where the battlegrounds were open spaces, but in the United States, where the battle often took place in forested territory, the sight lines were blocked, the kneeling soldiers were prime targets and the American soldiers, firing from behind trees and other protective cover, could pick them off easily. The British uniforms weren't helpful either. Where the Americans wore clothing that blended in with the background, the Brits wore bright red jackets with crossed white bandoleers in the middle of their chests. It made an ideal target.
Could Canada have invaded the US during the US Civil War?
I suppose they could have, but I don’t believe they had any desire to do that. We were trading partners with Canada, and had a fairly free border with them at that time. I’m sure the Canadians were curious about states seceding from the nation—something new—but they did not have the same underlying problem that the US did—slavery. There were no slaves in Canada, nor in England either by that time—slavery had been abolished 50 yrs before in England. Don’t know if it every existed in Canada.Canada did not have nearly the army that the USA had, and they did not want to challenge us—they probably wanted the slaves to be free. They did not want to jeopardize some of the successful trade agreements they had developed with Americans. The North, being industrialized and having many more roads and railroads, provided goods and services to Canada—and Canada provided those things to the North. They did not want to ruin a good deal, especially since in their country, there were no slaves.Invading the US would have been for—? land? stealing manufactured items or factories themselves? The Canadians were not a particularly war-like people. They were also part of the United Kingdom, and the UK was an ally of the official US government. It would have created a great deal of distrust with very little benefit for Canada.If the US government had asked for assistance, we probably would have gotten some—goods, soldiers? But the armies of the North were large and powerful enough that they were confident they would ultimately win against the south. They did, but the South surprised them with their courage and willingness to continue fighting.
History: Why is Canada not part of the U.S.?
Canada has no intrest in becoming a part of the USA, It would have gone down better if they sent up some Diplomats instead of President Madison's idea of armed invasion in 1812, not a very nice way of asking Canada to join with the USA, you never know what would have happened if they decided to do it diplomatically , considering %50 of the population in Canada at the time were American born, they were loyalists to the British Crown after the USA revolution of 1776, many American born moved to Canada after that war, but when they invaded in 1812 I think they decided to protect their farms and their Communities from the American soldiers, they already lost their homes in the USA because of death threats and a hostile population against anyone who was loyal to Britain, so after moving to Canada, I can see why they fought, they were not going to loose their homes again, and in another Country that did not belong to he USA.Canada was a Colony of Great Britain just like the USA was, declaring war on Britain in my view was for the biggest land grab in history... Just think a bout it, the USA had no Navy at the time and not much of a Army, but they declared war on the U.K anyway! knowing Britain had it's hands full fighting Napoleon, so it is obvious the USA had no way of attacking Britain it self, but Canada was ripe for the taking ( So they thought )this was a bout American expansion, plain and simple. But we all know how that turned out, the USA would not get a foot hold in Canada, 3 or 4 invasions were thrown back and the war of 1812 would end like it started, no one won anything, the border's are the same as they were 200 year's ago.the lossers were the NativesSo now that the USA could not expand North, it went west, and the Natives would be the vanquished and exterminated, so much for progress.I can never see Canada joining the USA ever, we are just to different, gun control and health care are 2 major concerns, health care is a human right, not if you can pay a fucking Insurance Company, and guns are just in the American DNA, they just can not or will not get rid of them, hunting rifles, very understandable but machine guns and AR 15s, have no place in peoples hands accept the Army, plain and simple, their 2nd amendment is literally killing them. but who care's the gun guy's are getting rich, and the NRA has bought every politician, so we must endure heart break after every school massacre and the normal massacre's.
Do you think there is any way the British could have won the Revolutionary war?
The whole "don't wear red and don't fight in lines" comments are amusing, but aren't particularly accurate. Both were good decisions for the time. The red uniforms hid blood, and prevent some reduction in morale when people were hit around you. The close, line formation maximized the impact of the inaccurate musket fire. And just for the record, Washington's troops also fought in compact line formations. And the British could have easily won, they weren't military beaten. They devoted only a small part of their strength to the campaign. Their decision was economic, it would be more expensive to win the war than the rewards of winning would grant. The colonies were economic vehicles, not anything of moral or cultural importance to England.
What would happen if the US invaded Canada?
First, while the US and Canada have ongoing disagreements on trade and some polices, especially with Trump making policy in the US, the US does not have reasonable grounds to invade Canada. it would be an unprovoked act of aggression against Canada. Many Americans would be angry with their own government and would protest a LOT, and possibly engage in civil disobedience, riots, etc. Many other nations, both friends of Canada and enemies of the US, would condemn the US. I imagine the UN would approve strong sanctions against the US, and NATO and OAS would condemn the US and probably implement sanctions too. NATO and other nations would probably send troops to either attack the US directly and/or liberate Canada. Canadians would be angry at the betrayal of their former ally and resist occupation with civil disobedience, strikes, riots, and sabotage. The US economy would be disrupted at the interruption of trade from Canada, still one of their biggest source of imports and exports. Internal chaos would also cause significant disruption of the US economy. Civil war would likely result, and Trump and Pence would be arrested, tried, and executed assuming they weren’t assassinated first. A temporary government, possibly a coalition, would be installed. The US would with draw from Canada, officially apologize, and pay hundreds of billions in reparations. It would take years for Canada to recover economically, and probably even longer for the US due to sanctions etc.The US would probably reform its constitution and eliminate the Electoral College, instituting a true vote for the President, to help prevent another loose cannon from being put into power. The President would probably be elected by a combination of the popular vote and a weighted plurality of states (states with more population would be worth more than states with low population).The US would lose its veto and permanent membership in the UN Security Council. Its influence would be greatly reduced for years to come. Probably India would take its place as a permanent Security Council member, since it has the 2nd largest population and considerable economic clout.