Does Army Sill Teach Modern Army Combatives

Does the army still teach modern army combatives?

I heard the organization THADOK might reduce the modern army combatives program. Has this been made official yet? So does that mean when i go into the army i will hardly be able to learn the modern army combatives?

Does the army teach you combat skills fighting with your fists?

Yes they do, its modeled after Brazilian Jujitsu and Judo

If you are training to be Infantry they do it in basic training, you only learn just some basic stuff there.
When you get to your unit you can enroll in "combatives" and learn more.

Army even hosts yearly competitions. Search you tube for "army combatives ft benning"

Do they teach hand to hand combat/combatives in US army Basic Training?

nowhere near what the marines give you

Marine Corps Martial Arts Program vs Modern Army Combatives?

I have read that there are two different fighting techniques in the US Armed Forces : Modern Army Combatives Program (MACP) and Marine Corps Martial Arts Program (MCMAP).

I'm not asking what's better that the other.

1. What are the main differences
2. What are the pros and cons of each ?
3. What situation would more suit MACP and what other situation would more suit MCMAP ?


Thanks for answering all the questions above. Have a nice day !

What army mos/career teaches the most hand on hand combat?

Any MOS can attend the Combatives courses given in FT. Benning or be taught level 1 or 2 on their parent posts by qualified instructors within your unit. Infantry or 18 series SF MOS's aren't the only ones who need to know how to 'throw from the shoulder'. These skills are important to everyone.
The best thing is to learn a martial arts before joining and continue on with your training after. Most of the stuff you learn in BCT is enough to just get your azz kick if you don't know how to fight already.

The Combatives School teaches four instructor certification courses. Students of the first course are not expected to have any knowledge of combatives upon arrival. They are taught fundamental techniques in a series of grappling drills. The basic techniques form a framework upon which the rest of the program can build and are taught as a series of drills, which can be performed as a part of daily physical training. While the course is heavy on grappling, it does not lose sight of the fact that it is a course designed for soldiers going into combat. It is made clear that while combatives can be used to kill or disable, the man that typically wins a hand-to-hand fight in combat is the one whose allies arrive with guns first.

Subsequent courses build upon the framework by adding throws and takedowns from wrestling and Judo, striking skills from boxing and Muay Thai, weapons fighting from eskrima and the western martial arts, all of that combined with how to conduct scenario training and referee the various levels of Combatives competitions.

There are several reasons that the combatives course is taught:

To educate soldiers on how to protect themselves against threats without using their firearms
To provide a non-lethal response to situations on the battlefield
To instill the 'warrior instinct' to provide the necessary aggression to meet the enemy unflinchingly

Level 1 certification should be conducted at the Battalion or Brigade level by a United States Army Combatives School trained Level 3 Battalion Combatives Master Trainer or Level 4 Brigade Combatives Master Trainer. Level 2 certification should be conducted at the Brigade Level by a United States Army Combatives School trained Level 4 Brigade Master Combatives Trainer.



https://www.infantry.army.mil/combatives...

Army combatives is useless for real-life applications?

Why do they even train soldiers like that? Do they even train them to properly disarm people and defend themselves?

Not teaching people hand-to-hand seems like a bad idea. If people are going to be clearing buildings with tight corners and hallways it seems like they'd get close enough to someone to go hand-to-hand sooner or later

I don't know about other systems like MCMAP or Systema but the M.A.C.P seems ineffective.

Thoughts? Do you agree or disagree? And Why?

Marine Corps Martial Arts Program vs Modern Army Combative?

The Marine Corps requires all Marines to take MCMAP training. After reaching your permanent duty station all Marines are required to advance their MCMAP training. The Army doesn't require everyone to take Modern Combative Arts.

The main difference between the two can be found in the Modern Combative Arts handbook. It says the MCA program allows soldiers to defend themselves until someone arrives with a rifle to dispatch the enemy. The MCMAP approach is to teach Marines to break limbs or kill the enemy without a weapon.

Most military bases have martial arts classes. In the Marines, there are volunteers who will teach advanced MCMAP. If deployed aboard ship, Marines will use some of their time learning advanced MCMAP. There are martial arts teams on most Marine bases which compete internationally.

The MCA program was designed by Matt Larsen, a former Marine who had also taken several martial arts courses. Martial Arts teaches competitive martial arts. The MCA is based on mostly non-lethal techniques while MCMAP is based on the needs of the Marine Corps and teaches lethal hand-to-hand combat.

Although one of of the sites I read has a comment from a person claiming to be a gray belt, there is no gray belt in MCMAP. There are lots of posers on the internet.