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Exit bag/suicide bag. Nitrogen gas vs helium gas?

I knew someone who committed suicide last year who used an exit bag. I was a little unfamiliar with this method before it happened. He had ordered a tank of nitrogen has and I read that nitrogen is already present in a lot of the air we breathe so its easier to become accustomed to it if you want to cut off your oxygen supply without a feeling of suffocation coming over you.

But most things about the exit bag online suggest using helium. Why helium? Is it a better option than nitrogen or is it just easier to obtain?

Also, please don't be concerned. I'm asking this question out of curiosity, not because I plan on offing myself.

Is helium as good a gas as nitrogen to use in an exit bag?

NoHe has a much lower Vc (57.48 mL) than N2 (90.06 mL) which makes He very hard to contain )leaks) this one of several properties (cost, rare etc) that makes it undesirable for exit bags.

Is death by helium painful?

It would not be painful.The sensation of suffocation (what Wikipedia refers to as the “hypercapnic alarm response”) is due to the rise of carbon dioxide levels in the blood. If the lungs are able to clear carbon dioxide from the blood, in other words if you are able to exhale, then there will be no sensation of alarm.Nitrogen and other inert gas asphyxiation is a recognized industrial hazard, since the individual is not aware that he is in danger, due to the lack of “hypercapnic alarm.” On at least two separate occasions, workers at rocket launch facilities have encountered nitrogen-rich environments that had been purged of oxygen, resulting in at least 4 deaths (2 at the Kennedy Space Center in Florida, and 2 at the Ariane 5 launch facility in French Guiana).Addendum 3/9/18: Breathing an inert gas like helium or nitrogen at atmospheric pressure would only cause harm by depriving the body of oxygen. This would be followed by a rapid loss of consciousness without any sensation whatsoever. The cause of the panic sensation of suffocation has nothing to do with a lack of oxygen; rather, it is due to a buildup of carbon dioxide in the blood, which would not happen when breathing an inert gas like nitrogen or helium at low pressure. This is why filling a room with an inert gas like helium is so dangerous. Those dead workers at KSC and the Arianespace Spaceport had no idea they were in danger.Putting your mouth over the nozzle of the tank is another matter entirely. The pressure inside a tank of helium is up to 2200 psi (150 times atmospheric) and it would blow you up “like a balloon.”

What does using a helium tank feel like for suicide?

Well two things were going on- 1: she was inhaling a gas normally used to induce a euphoric or surreal feeling, and 2: she was depriving herself oxygen. In all likelihood, the helium probably prevented her from feeling like she was suffocating. If you're concerned for her being in pain while committing suicide- typically the emotional pain outweighs the mind's capacity at that point to register physical consequence.

I'm curious as to whether or not you've discussed this with your counselor- if not, you may want to inquire about the details from them- they may be able to provide a greater depth of insight into the matter, as well as explore why you want to know about the physical characteristics of what happened.

I'm very, very sorry for your loss, but don't be afraid to ask your therapist any and all questions you need to. They're there to help, and it takes time to fully understand your own emotions in such a complicated situation.

Take care.

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Why is helium gas more viscous than nitrogen gas?

Errenhius' Equation.

Patricles with smaller mass move faster.
A nitrogen molecule is much larger than a helium atom.

I am confused about helium and suicide?

It would be the same type of helium. But to kill yourself with it, you'd have to inhale a lot more, in a much more concentrated form, in a different way, than you do to make your voice change. When people inhale helium to make their voices change, they usually only take 1-2 deep breaths. If they are doing it properly, in a well-ventilated area, this will not kill them. However, if too much helium is inhaled, or it isn't inhaled properly, it can fill up the lungs and make oxygen intake impossible, causing the user to asphyxiate. Because it's very difficult to tell how much helium is safe and how much isn't, I would recommend that you don't ever inhale it for any reason.

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