Are you considered a veteran or ex-military if you got kicked out for bad behavior/insubordination?
In most cases…and definitely for purposes of VA services, no.But, in the real world…where people accept some shades of gray…maybe. Depends on the context though.Here’s the most common example that happens from time to time:Say you had a real good guy enlist…he’s totally motivated and never had any problems as he worked his way up the rank structure. Eventually, he becomes a badass NCO, leads troops in combat…does multiple tours. His chest is full of candy/bells and whistles. He’s legit! His performance reviews are all stellar, and he is highly regarded.His well-deserved retirement on the horizon…just a few years down the road. He can see it.Then…one night he goes out drinking and has a bit too much. Hell, maybe he is even self-medicating after those 4–5 combat tours and this isn’t just a one-off scenario. Let’s say alcohol is a problem in some way. Anyway, the point is he gets a DUI. His career is out the window. He’s looking at a dishonorable discharge. Career ruined.Would you begrudge this fellow the label of “veteran” if you were chatting with him, or telling other people about him? I sure wouldn’t.I know of a few cases where this has happened and the fellow committed suicide upon finding out they were looking to go with a dishonorable discharge - so after a stellar career, a slip-up toward the end fucked it all up.
Can you overcome an other than honorable discharge to become us citizen?
Well lets see here. You weren't a citizen but they let you join the Army. Then as a thank you, you went AWOL. Now you want to upgrade your discharge so you can be a citizen even though thus far, you have just F'd everything you could along the way. Well here is the bad news. You can go to the records site for the military and put in a request to have your discharge upgraded but here is why it is not going to happen. The only reason why they would do this is if there was an "error" on the Army or DOD's part where that characterization of service was placed erroneously on your DD 214. Seeing how you went AWOL and as a result your last command gave you a OTH characterization then you are just pretty much up a crick as they say without a paddle or a canoe. But here ya go...this is where you put your best foot forward and give it a try.. http://arba.army.pentagon.mil/adrb-overv...
If you go AWOL can you re-enlist?
Ok so my friend went AWOL from the Army National Guard. He was in a split-op program where he went to basic between his junior and senior year of high school. He got kicked out of high school before graduation and could not go to AIT, so he left and moved back to where his family lived. Before that the Army said they lost his BCT papers(301?) so it showed he never went. So again he left and never returned. Nothing ever came up and no one tried to contact him when he left, hes been pulled over plenty of times and never been arrested for it. So he is having problems keeping a job and wants to reenlist in regular Army. Can he do it? Will it show he went AWOL? He has no discharge papers to see any reenlistment or seperation codes. Can he look up his discharge papers? thanks for the help.
What would happen if a soldier was drafted to serve in World War 1 or 2 and they abandoned their unit and went home after being deployed?
The writer William Bradford Huie who wrote “The Execution of Private Slovack” about the one (1) US soldier executed for desertion in WW2. The other 95 were hung for rape/murder of civilians in the ETO.He notes one case in WW2 of a combat NCO in the ETO who went AWOL, hitched a ride home, and on VE day turned himself in to the Army. He stood a court-martial with six wounded combat vets and they found him guilty. They said death by firing squad. BUT then word came down from the top from Washington, D.C. “No more executions”. Since this was from the top the court-martial board reconvened and gave him life. Don’t know what else happened. What is written in law does not always happens in real life.On WW1, I know one example. An American soldier went AWOL from the 3rd Army of Occupation to marry a German girl. He got her and himself home, but never lived it down at home (small town). He was the father of Lt. Karl H. Timmermann who captured the Ludendorff bridge over the Rhine, March 1945. Partially to redeem his family name.Update: In the US late in WW2, my father sat a court-martial. An AAF airman had gone AWOL, found a Navy wife and stayed (shacked up)with her. One day she said, my husband is coming home, you have to leave. He said “Hell no”. She took her purse, walked to the nearest MP station (they were all over) and told the two MP’s, there is an AWOL airman in XXX Apartment, on YYY street. They got him and he stood court-martial and they found him guilty. Don’t know about after.Update1: WWII 'Deserters': Stories Of Men Who Left The Front Lines