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Is Astrology Part Of Transpersonal Psychology Based On Carl Jung

Without you probably even knowing this, your question you have brought together an interesting entanglement of different belief systems. Truly amazing.Let’s break it down and you will see what I am talking about. First, most of the astrology that you see on Quora, day after day, month after month has NOTHING to do with Jung’s interest in seeking to understand the fundamental drives within the human psyche, or the archetypal principles that are referred to as “signs of the Zodiac”. Mostly what you see on Quora are uninformed and superficial questions about Sun sign junk and people asking for black and white predictions. No, this has almost nothing to do with Jung’s explorations.Yes, you are right, Carl Jung was well educated. But, I mean that in the best sense of the word. Wisdom is not just about empirical “facts” and book learning. He seemed to possess a deep understanding of the deeper layers of the psyche. This is what motivated him to learn about the core ideas of astrology.And, it was precisely in his decades long exploration that he discovered the validity and value of these archetypal principles. In fact, his pioneering work, along with ideas from depth psychology, that gave finally gave birth to a 20th Century movement called Humanistic astrology.This is one of the best questions I have seen on astrology in many weeks.

I often think that TP is a label that combines the work of Stan Groff, Carl Jung, and, if not Freud, a neo-Freudian like, well, Jung or Neville Symington.From a personal or practical standpoint, TP is about integrating “spiritual or non-ordinary” states of consciousness or awareness into the mind.Often, these non-ordinary states generate conflict within the psyche, creating tension and anxiety within the self, which is often exacerbated when trying to communicate meaningfully with others. This occurs for many reasons.One reason is that the experience, because it’s not ordinary, sometimes requires the use of a language, verbal and symbolic, unfamiliar to the self and to the people around them.Relating to others from a deeper and more personal level while trying to integrate the non-ordinary experience can also add to a feeling of isolation that is now two-fold. The transpersonal experience happened to them, not anyone else. Explaining themselves to others unfamiliar with their circumstance, in addition to not knowing how to articulate, furthers the feeling of isolation, making the challenge of integration more difficult.TP seeks to normalize this often tumultuous experience, with the goal of helping the client to live a richer, more fulfilling life with an increased capacity to tolerate difficult experiences within the self and with others.

Psychology can be considered as a ‘catch-all’ term for approaches to studying human experience.There have been, broadly, five ‘waves’ of psychology each defining the history of the development of this study.Introspective - exploring what was going on through exploring own behaviours and processesGestalt - how we experience the world, the summation of that experience is greater than its partsPsycholanalysis - feelings come from hidden places in the mind; the idea of the unconscious and/or subconscious and its ‘power’Behaviourism - focussing only on what can be observed in the outside word, how people react, respond, behaveEclectic (Modern) Approaches - these include Humanistic, Cognitive and Transpersonal aspects to understanding the ‘human condition’.The science or pseudoscience label is something that can be discussed here, but perhaps it is simpler to recognise that some aspects of psychological interest are not overly easy to consider using the questions scientific reductionism can ask.Transpersonal Psychology grew out of Humanistic approaches to people and their behaviours, and suggests that there is a spiritual dimension which is important and needs to be considered. This is not about religion or religious beliefs, but the way in which human beings consider themselves connected (or not) to something larger that themselves - the Cosmos if you like.Carl Jung, writing after the Second World War, noted that he thought major psychoses and neuroses were the product of the human psyche experiencing a disconnection with themselves and that something which was outside of themselves - that space in which ‘awe’ and ‘wonder’ existed.Alan

What is thrid and forth way in regard to psychology?

Huh?

I’ve known several psychologists over the decades who’ve used Tarot in their practices, as well as their personal lives. In fact, I’ve had many such professionals as clients over the years, and still do. They often view the cards as a form of intuitive aid. Others believe in the psychic connection. Carl Jung, one of the greats of the field, indulged in the mysteries and even wrote an introduction to Richard Wilhelm’s great work on the I Ching.The two fields are more intertwined than many would like to admit. However, whereas a psychologist may be a Tarot reader, I never make the mistake of thinking that I’m a psychologist. I’ve referred many to capable, professional hands. I know what I do, and I do it well. I also know what I don’t do, and I leave it alone.

Q: “Is Carl Jung's theory of personality as nonsense as Freud's theory?”No, their respective theories are neither of them nonsense. You may disagree with both of them, but they are certainly not nonsense.Freud writes in a clear way, and very well, as if he is a natural scientist, so you read him, agree or disagree with various points, accept or reject him in part or in whole, as you see fit.Jung, for me is more poetic and allusive (elusive) in his style of writing, so you may find yourself sympathetic or not in more global ways.They were both writing a hundred years ago now, and before more modern styles of Psychology, and before quantitative analysis of data was fashionable or possible. The idea that they were ‘not validated’ at the time is therefore slightly anachronistic. They were relying on qualitative data and qualitative arguments, underlying most of which is the idea that even if something is observed to happen only once, it may carry weight.For instance, if one person were to show verifiable evidence of having met an alien, it would not matter that in the past millenia no one else could prove such a thing, or that it does not happen on a regular basis. It would still be definitive proof of alien life.Modern psychology is not able to verify Freud’s or Jung’s speculations, since they cannot be validated by mountains of numerical data, and the qualitative arguments they used are not accepted as definitive proofs. Using qualitative arguments Freud was able to propose bold holistic theories, that cannot be so easily arrived at using quantitative scientific methods of experimentation.Nonetheless many of Freud’s seminal ideas about unconscious and projective processes, and to a much lesser extent Jung’s, underlie large (but not all) areas of modern psychological practice (Clinical Psychology). Modern Psychoanalysts also refer back to these ideas, although much that is new has been discovered since.

I’ve known several psychologists over the decades who’ve used Tarot in their practices, as well as their personal lives. In fact, I’ve had many such professionals as clients over the years, and still do. They often view the cards as a form of intuitive aid. Others believe in the psychic connection. Carl Jung, one of the greats of the field, indulged in the mysteries and even wrote an introduction to Richard Wilhelm’s great work on the I Ching.The two fields are more intertwined than many would like to admit. However, whereas a psychologist may be a Tarot reader, I never make the mistake of thinking that I’m a psychologist. I’ve referred many to capable, professional hands. I know what I do, and I do it well. I also know what I don’t do, and I leave it alone.

How astrology works? what is astrology sciense?

Well it's nice to see all the skeptics around. Usually a smart but uninformed (ignorant) group.

The Science is based on PLANETARY SYMBOLISM. The thing about this is that we know that some symbolism is correct but there is a lot out there that isn't correct. In order for a symbolism to be correct it has to work every time. Otherwise we are left at the mercy of self-acclaimed psychics (psych!) So how do we test a symbolism. We come up with a theory about a planet and we test it over and over and over and over. But not just 4 times. We test it thousands of times. After testing it thousands of times we set the symbolism.

Example: Mars has these symbolisms. War, the warrior, the athlete and sports. Crudeness and vulgarity and the he-man.
There are many symbolisms for each planet. But not all of them have to play themselves out. So we pick a date when a war broke out and look at the aspects in the sky. We should, assuming that our symbolism is correct, be able to find a day(Sun) of war(Mars) aspect.

The Korean war, world war one and two. The war in Iraq. All of these wars started on a day when Mars was in aspect (increments of 30 degrees) to the Sun.

Check it out yourself, dear skeptics! This is my challenge to you. One more thing. There are four charts that you have to look at. Geocentric, Heliocentric and the declinations in both. The aspects have to be increments of 30 degrees plus or minus 3 degrees. In declinations we use parallel or contra-parallel. 1.2 degrees for geocentric and 0.3 for heliocentric. Email me if you find an odd one out and I will give up on astrology forever.

How astrology works? what is astrology sciense?

Well it's nice to see all the skeptics around. Usually a smart but uninformed (ignorant) group.

The Science is based on PLANETARY SYMBOLISM. The thing about this is that we know that some symbolism is correct but there is a lot out there that isn't correct. In order for a symbolism to be correct it has to work every time. Otherwise we are left at the mercy of self-acclaimed psychics (psych!) So how do we test a symbolism. We come up with a theory about a planet and we test it over and over and over and over. But not just 4 times. We test it thousands of times. After testing it thousands of times we set the symbolism.

Example: Mars has these symbolisms. War, the warrior, the athlete and sports. Crudeness and vulgarity and the he-man.
There are many symbolisms for each planet. But not all of them have to play themselves out. So we pick a date when a war broke out and look at the aspects in the sky. We should, assuming that our symbolism is correct, be able to find a day(Sun) of war(Mars) aspect.

The Korean war, world war one and two. The war in Iraq. All of these wars started on a day when Mars was in aspect (increments of 30 degrees) to the Sun.

Check it out yourself, dear skeptics! This is my challenge to you. One more thing. There are four charts that you have to look at. Geocentric, Heliocentric and the declinations in both. The aspects have to be increments of 30 degrees plus or minus 3 degrees. In declinations we use parallel or contra-parallel. 1.2 degrees for geocentric and 0.3 for heliocentric. Email me if you find an odd one out and I will give up on astrology forever.

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