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Is It Wrong For A Court To Rule That Being Poor Is A Mental Illness

Can you be convicted if you have a mental illness?

It depends.

Even if you hear voices telling you to, e.g. kill someone, and you kill someone; It was still your action and decision to listen to the voices. So, in many cases the plea for insanity is denied and the offender is still convicted. Some will go into a normal prison environment, some will go into a lock down psychiatric institution. Some will stay there their whole sentence, some may move out the institution into a normal prison environment. Others start in a prison, and then go into an institution.

There are many stories of mass murders who clearly have severe psychological issues and need psychiatric invention, who plea insanity but are denied it. Again, some go to prison, some will not.

To have a successful plea of insanity you need to have been unaware you were doing the action (e.g. of killing someone), or not realise it was wrong. Both are extremely hard to prove in a court.

How can someone prove in a court a person is mentally ill.?

I WOULD SAY GO GET A PSYCIATRIST TO TESTIFY FOR YOU, BUT ITS EASIER SAID THEN DONE.. MY GUESS IS THAT IT WAS NOT DIAGNOSED BECAUSE YOU HAVE NO HEALTH INSURANCE, THEREFORE CANT AFFORD A SHRINK OR THEIR MEDICINE THEY GIVE YOU.
IN ORDER TO GET DISABILITY YOU WOULD NEED TO BE PROVEN DISABLED. YOU WILL NEED A LAWYER AND AN EXPERTS TESTIMONY. IT WILL TAKE 15-18 MONTHS FOR A HEARING. YOU COULD JUST GO OUT KILLING PEOPLE LIKE SOME. BUT I WOULD RECOMEND TRYING TO ATTEMPT TO SEE A SHRINK AND A LAWYER TO HELP YOU GET DISABILITY..
I DONT BELIEVE IN SCHIZOPHRENIA.. MY GRANDMOTHER WAS DIAGNOSED SCHIZOPHRENIC BECAUSE SHE ALWAYS THOUGHT PEOPLE WERE WATCHING HER AND DOING THINGS TO HER PROPERTY. MAYBE THEY WERE? HER BROTHER WAS A STATE REPRESENTATIVE... WHO KNOWS WHAT THINGS HE WAS INTO? SHE WAS ALSO VERY SMART WHEN SHE WAS 80 YEARS OLD.
SCHIZOPHRENIA IS MORE OF A SIXTH SENSE. I HAVE WAY MORE KNOWLEDGE THAN WHAT I HAVE EVER BEEN TAUGHT. AS IF IT WERE A GIFT. YET MOST TIMES IT IS A CURSE. PEOPLE LOOK DOWN UPON THESE PEOPLE, AND I THINK IT JUST PUTS THEIR ABILITY INTO A STANDSTILL. ESPECIALLY BEING POOR.. I WOULD PROBABLY BE DIAGNOSED SCHIZOPHRENIC BUT HAVE NO HEALTH INSURANCE, AND HAVE NEVER SEEN SHRINK. NOR DO I THINK A SHRINK WOULD HELP ME. I AM LONG OVERDUE.I AM 28. AND TOO MANY NEGATIVE THINGS HAVE HAPPENED TO ME THAT I CANT LET GO...I AM,STUCK IN A HOLE SOCIETY HAS DUG FOR ME..GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR ATTEMPT AGAINST THE WORTHLESS JUDICIAL SYSTEM..........

Can poverty be the cause of mental illness?

I think you have it backwards, mental illness can cause poverty. I think this is much more the case then your question and may explain the correlation one might find. I think that in some cases poverty can lead people toward mental illness such as substance abuse, violent tendencies, depression; though it does not cause it, though in some cases it may. I think that it is very likely mental illness can cause poverty, in some cases poverty can cause mental illness, and that they are quite likely to be found together though the cause(chicken or the egg first) is likely to vary with each situation. Many wealthy people have mental illness,(some may say wealth causes it, hehe) and there are many poor people who have no mental illness. I have not seen many studies that show in causality and would have to read some meta analysis(study of many studies) to make a sound observation. So it can, but it doesn't predict mental illness is what I am getting at. Hope it helps!

Can poverty lead to mental illness?

Mental illness is a health condition some people are born with despite the level of their income ; as well as being a condition that manifests itself due to accidents or abuses physically as well as emotionally by one's self or another individual . Poverty is a perception of reality each individual person decides for themselves .A very financially affluent person can develop a mental illness without experiancing poverty . A very financially unstable person can spend their entire lifetime never being afflicted with mental illness . In this age of medical research and development of definitive labels for every emotional and physical imperfection society has suddenly validated conditions that previously were considered a hypochondriacs excuse to receive attention . Thank God that we no longer just get a prescription of Valium and ignore the symptoms of anxiety, depression and post traumatic stress disorder . Left untreated properly mental illness can lead to sociopath behavior in some cases . In other cases healthy individuals develop depression for a wide variety of reasons could become suicidal and not enjoy the lifespan that should have been theirs . Robin Williams wasn't poor yet he opted out, because he was clinically depressed .I am poor . I live in poverty financially but I'm not mentally ill . I feel like I have suffered through some life events that could have a label such as PTSD attached to my personality traits , however I chose to not allow my financial situation to define my emotional state of well being . I suspect that someone such as Kim Kardashian would fall apart and check herself into a sanitoriam if she had to consider living for a week on the income I receive in a year and scream to the TV audience that poverty made her crazy , so now she would give us a whole new reality show to liven up our Saturday late night options .Yes, poverty can defeat a normally happy go lucky individual , and lead to drug abuse or anorexia or any number of labels now acknowledged in clinical studies but I highly disagree that poverty unto itself causes mental illness .

HELP!!!!I Want To Have A Mental Illness Or Disorder...!!!?

Dont Call Me Crazy.I Know How Bad These Things Can Be,But I Still Want Something To Be Wrong With Me.I Always Look Up Mental Illnesses && Disorders && Other Physical Illnesses In Hope Of Finding Something That Fits Me.Im Depressed && Have Been For A Couple Of Months && Im Anemic.When I Found Out That I Was Anemic,I Was Pretty Happy About It Too.But,Thats Not Enough.I Still Want More Things To Wrong With Me.For A While I Had Even Convinced Myself That I Had A Brain Tumor,But When I Went To The Doctor He Said That I Was Just Anemic.Is There Something Seriously Wrong With Me Mentally??I Know How Bad Some Of These Things Are && I Know That They Can Be Fatal...But I Still Want Them.Is It All Just For Attention??

Would mental illness show up on a background check?

The answer varies.

If you went to court to prove you were not mentally ill and the court ordered you to undergo therapy, it may be a public record that can be used to deny a firearm purchase, security clearance, etc. The general rule is that if a court orders you into a guardianship to receive treatment it'll show up on a background check.

One reason it may vary is it may depend on the type of mental illness being discussed. Certain phobias may cause people problems dealing with the world (e.g. fear of germs, fear of elevators, heights, spiders, etc.) and render them dysfunctional.

Other forms of mental illness may cause the person to be dysfunctional but also a danger to themselves and/or others. Deep depression often gives way to suicide attempts. Paranoia, dementia, schizophrenia and multiple-personality disorders are good examples.

Obviously there's a big difference between arachnophobia and being a paranoid schizophrenic. But if a court orders you into treatment, it's very likely to be a negative hit on your background check.

Note too, the term "Mental illness" is a slippery one. What professionals say is a "mental illness" you or I might think of as a personality quirk or slight eccentricity. Your boss who's desk is neat and his pencils lined up "just so" suffers from a "mental illness" according to shrinks. That's a far cry from a paranoid-schiz.

How Can We Reverse Mental Illness ?

Reverse mental illness? Do you think Mental Illness is like a recording tape? That you can just write something over it and everything will all be fine? You can’t write over memories. They stay. The worst ones are the ones most deeply etched into your mind too. Your mind “thinks” by making connections between neurons. As much as the computer crowd loves to liken the mind to a PC, nothing could be further from the truth. Your brain actually changes it’s structure as you think. (Imagine the main processing chip in your PC subtly changing its wiring every few seconds!) The more you think in a certain way, (whether it be in a certain mood, or painting, or throwing a baseball, or even doing math problems) the more connections are made and the less energy and effort it takes to think in that way. Your mind essentially forms super highways to assist it in thinking along the lines it needs to think. Once the mental illness is established, you can’t erase it. That would be like filling in the Grand Canyon. The best you can do is finding alternative ways to think and work very hard at using them – it is extraordinarily difficult – vastly more difficult that recovering from a broken leg or something. Even with a lifetime of effort, you will only succeed part way. Mental illness is an adaption to an extreme situation.

A more important question, I think, is how do we prevent mental illness. That would be a lot easier. Poor and abusive parenting causes well over 90% of mental illness. You don’t have to beat or rape your children to abuse them. Being unsupportive, belittling and ignoring them will cause a huge amount of problems leading to mental illness. Most people have children for the wrong reason any way. That starts out from a sick and selfish point of view. They want to “make” their children into something. They have no interest in supporting their children’s search to find out who they are as persons.

In a world of vast over population why do we let just anyone be parents? It’s harder to get a car license than be a parent. You can be a plain old cruel, self-centered nit-wit, but its still OK for you to have children.

To what extent is a mental illness a sound excuse for bad behaviour?

Theoretically, to a great extent — mental illness could potentially exempt someone from criminal responsibility.In Bates Motel S5E9, Norman Bates’s defense counsel discussed with him about his options. One feasible argument she brought up was the insanity defense — “Not Guilty by Reason of Insanity” (NGRI), telling Norman that he was likely suffering from dissociative identity disorder.NGRI is a defense based on the mental state of the defendant at the time of the criminal act — a defendant acting while being in an episodic or persistent mental illness should not be responsible for their act.So, theoretically, mental illness would excuse bad behavior to a great extent.But so far, NGRI is applied in less than 1% of criminal cases, and the success rate is very low.Aside from NGRI, mental illness is commonly used as a mitigating factor or a partial defense. It can be crucial in a capital case where death penalty would be sought. Regardless of the connection between the mental illness and the criminal act, the Court almost always acknowledges the pervasive effects of mental illness on one’s behavior. It is at the judge’s discretion to take it into consideration and make adjustment accordingly. It could lead to a reduced incarceration time or a more lenient punishment, provided that the defendant is actively participating in treatment programs.Therefore, even legal authorities acknowledge that mental illness would result in reduced capability for self-control.Your friend probably didn't even realize they were treating you poorly. Even if they did, chances are they thought they had a reason to do so.While it is a pretty dick move to blame someone for something they cannot control, you are not obliged to endure any form of abuse. As a human being with full mobility and free will, you can choose to stay away from them.

I believe being Transgender is a mental illness. Prove me wrong.?

If you do not mean to offend people, perhaps ask your question in a less offensive/confronting way that "I believe trans are mentally ill, prove me wrong" next time. The tone of your question comes across as very confrontational/offensive, rather than genuinely curious and open to learning.

So by your rather strange logic every person who opts not to reproduce is mentally ill??? You'd be very hard pushed to find a mental health expert who agrees with you!!! LOL! The FACT is reproduction is only PART of the human purpose. Not every human needs to reproduce for the species to continue,in fact if they did we would be in even ore of a mess due to MAJOR overuse of natural resources.


Science is finding more and more evidence of gender dysphoria (trans) being a congenital condition, and not an illness (google "transgender brain for more info"). Because of this the world health organisation has now taken trans off the list of mental health disorders.

Those who understand the whole trans thing are not saying transgenders are "born in the wrong body", they are saying that while most people have a gender identity that matches their biological sex, a number of people dont. which makes them trans.

Mental illness is defined as severe disorder in ones thinking/behaviour. Aside from the high rate of depression/suicide (due to persecution, and lack of understanding/acceptance) there is no more disorder in the behaviour of trans persons. There have been recent studies done which have looked at trans brains and found them to be similar to that of they gender they identify as. Baring these things in mind, trans are clearly not mentally ill as they're experience of gender/sex mismatch is based on reality rather than delusion.

How are socioeconomic status and mental illness related?

Thanks for the A2A.Two major points.1. One of the most important factors in development of mental health challenges is resiliency factors present in early childhood. These are sometimes related to money, but not always. These are things like direct support of loved ones, ability to live/eat/sleep without fear for your environment changing, and a network of people who "catch" and keep you afloat. This can be vital with early childhood trauma in particular. The difference between a deeply unhappy and traumatized person and someone who grows up well adjusted can literally come down to whether or not your family validated and believed your feelings and experiences. It should be noted that resiliency factors are not inherently a matter of wealth and privilege, in fact, plenty of wealthy children feel neglected and ignored. Some families develop even in the midst of terrible adversity, and turn inward to support one another. This is completely independent of their income, though there are arguments to be made each way - that it is easier to offer emotional support if you do not rely on throwing money at the problem, or that money and time off and benefits offer you more time to support family.2. Wealth is a gateway to a huge amount of support for medication, therapy, psychiatric commitment, and so on. Not having health insurance is a huge barrier to getting this kind of help, as is scarcity in cities, food deserts (areas with no access to healthy, or non-boxed/canned food) as well as poor schools and few socioeconomic opportunities for growth.That is again not to say that wealth is the be-all-end-all of mental health treatment, but decent amounts of support and access to primary medical care go a long way to stopping a problem before it spirals entirely out of control. I think the other posters are right, and that plenty can affect your socioeconomic status in relation to mental health. But the risk factors and care you receive are a big deal, and sometimes have nothing to do with how rich or how poor you are. Some of the best adjusted and healthiest people I know grew up with nothing - or with everything, and vice versa.