When did you personally realize 9-11 was an inside job?
omg, please tell me you do not believe that the government is responsible for killing its own citizens for its own gain...i saw lose change and it was really creepy...i guess there were some good points in that and some things don't make sense, but how creepy would it be if you didn't trust your own government? i mean, look at pearl harbor...ppl believed that the president organized it, or At least knew about it well in advance...you seriously cannot truly prove anything, and so basically your security lies in your faiths...not to get to philosophical or anything, but think about it...
Do you think 9/11 was planned by the goverment ?
I think there is a lot of evidence against the government on this one. First and foremost, the security tapes that described a plane crashing into the Pentagon were confiscated. Any claims of the freedom of information act to view those tapes were denied. A second point on this is the plane that "crashed" into the pentagon was immediately vaporized, leaving the secure black box (Usually stored in the back) in the middle of the rubble. I'm not an investigator, so I'm sure I don't know all about the situation as I could. I also have to edit in that it doesn't help that going to war creates a 'war economy,' with higher prices and less individual profit.
Do you think Osama Bin Laden was really a terrorist and?
That's absolutely preposterous. it makes me sad to think that people as ignorant as you exist. let's take a look at some facts, huh? 1. you claim that there were no jews in the building a) from what source are you getting this information? b) for what reason would the U.S. government (who you claim is part of the conspiracy) go out of there way to ensure jews weren't in the building? what possible interest would we have for protecting the jews? 2. you claim that we totally control "iraq and palestine." a) why would we want control of these countries? oil? b) if oil, why are the gas prices so high? c) given that the united states has long since intervened in foriegn affairs without the interest of establishing a permanent control of a region (aka vietnam, korea, grenada, etc.), why do you think that we have interest in controlling iraq or afghanistan (both places we are withdrawing from) 3. In regards to bombing up innocent people... a) do you understand what guerrilla warfare is? if you did then you must know that determining who the enemy actually is presents a huge problem b) if the american govt is interested in bombing the innocent children of Iraq back to the stone age (which begs the question "why would they?") then why aren't the using the really big bombs? like the MOABS? c) what possible reason would the american government have for spending trillions of dollars to fund an unsuccessful and unpopular war? even the big claim that it's all about oil makes no sense economically. it would have been cheaper for us to just buy the oil then to jump into this mess. The only probable explanation for the war is a retaliation against terrorist groups. leave your crackpot theories aside.
The american government had something to do with 9/11 right??
I've seen the videos and they do present some powerful evidence but I just have a really hard time believing that ANY government, not just this one, could pull off something as big as 9/11 and not have one person confess or speak out about their involvement. Now if somebody did speak out then I would consider changing my stance but as of now I think the videos are interesting but false. They claim in the video that 15 of the 9/11 hi-jackers are still alive today? How come they have never made any noise about this? If I was being accused of committing a suicide attack that killed 3000 people I would come out and say "No I didn't! I'm still alive!". I think the odds of conspiracy being true is similar to the odds that 2pac and Elvis are living on an island, sipping margaritas somewhere.
Bin Laden death - how will they quash the conspiracy theories?
LOL Americans will never cease to amaze me with their stupidity... Even your goverment is probably thinking how far they can push the thread I am canadian, and ud think americans would know more or google 1 hour of there life to actully find out the truth but ey you wouldnt be an american if you werent dumb right ? They funded bin laden in late 70s and 80s to fight the russians from afghanistan, which is how he gained notoriety in the extremist regimes ( US always funds countrys at war with countrys they dont like since the 50s, iran vs iraq and many more wars they funded ) then trained him in the CIA, made some kind of big money deal cause he knew once he was on fbi most wanted there was no turning back, bin laden father is a billionaire and owns huge oil refineries which did business at one point with the bush family.... 9/11 was clearly inside job, the third brown building collapsed perfectly straight without anything even touching it and the kicker... Burned badly inside you can clearly see videos of it on youtube, and ull just laugh at the bold act the goverment did on its own civilians 9/11 was the access door for war " on terror " like your old president said, with fear and media you control the people... Bin laden died in 2003 reports say, he was having serious health issue supposibly, probably why he didnt mind taking the wrap in 2001, they found saddam hidden in a rat hole, if the us wants you, theyll get you they couldnt announce his death back then, they still needed to inject more money in the army and allow banks to keep fuckin the ppl to cause the recession and all of sudden, when obama claims the troops are leaving afghanistan, osama is killed, bs picture, den dropped in the ocean ? there was never any pictures of any sightings except from those bootleg videos that the us goverment released here n there on cnn and controlled media stations he litttterally needed to be in a fuckin cave for 10 years for no one to ever spot him or take a picture of him Obama should of just did a press conference with a monkey sitting beside him, crayola pen on his ear and said aliens abducted him, that would of been better then we killed him, and within few hours his body was dumped in water somewhere
Can someone prove to me that 9/11 was or wasn't an inside job?
Ok … so just because 1 or 2 floors are weakened, does not mean the floors above or below were.Let that sink in …….Let's go with the official theory and say the fire weakened a few floors all within a few hours compromising 90% of the steels strength on the floors in question. Ok, so let's say these few floors all collapse at the same time with, an approximate 45–50k tons of floors above them.What happens?Seriously, play it out in your head. You dont have to be a physicist…So the metal framing bends on the given floors or lets say it even it manages to break simultaneously in every location bearing weight (we know this didn't and can't happen… although it does in controlled demos). Ok, so then what??Those floors collapse on themselves and the floors weight bearing trusses and girders all fail. THATS ALL THAT HAPPENS. NOTHING ELSE HAPPENS IN REAL LIFE. THE REMAINING FLOORS WERE NOT COMPROMISED BELOW OR ABOVE.The only time a steel super-structure disintegrates (The portion above and below the small area the plane hit the WTC for example…) is when it is demolished. Fire or even collapse wont pulverize hundreds of steel floors people.This is so blatantly obvious I mean seriously folks. The remaining super structure was intact. A few floors simultaneously collapsing and failing due to heat is not enough to compromise the rest of the super reinforced steel structure below. And Im BEING GENEROUS by conceding that even happened!Even if there were 100k tons above it, IT WOULDN'T IMPLODE ON ITSELF, PULVERIZING THE ENTIRE STRUCTURE AND ELIMINATING THE CORE BEAMS, LET ALONE have PREVENTED THEM FROM SUPPORTING WHAT THEY WERE DESIGNED AND ENGINEERED TO SUPPORT.Think about it.There is no way an asymmetrical plane crash that weakened and heated beams in an asymmetrical fashion WOULD or COULD PRODUCE A FULLY SYMMETRICAL TOTAL GLOBAL FAILURE ON ALL FLOORS..What matters is again.. - Just because a few floors were weakened, does NOT mean the floors above or below were. This is a significant fact. No amount of torsional energy release from 50k-100k of mass on ANY STEEL would result in complete obliteration of the material itself. Where did all the steel go? There should be a huge pile of building material and STEEL below. How did it disintegrate and lose mass so much mass?
Can someone prove to me that 9/11 was or wasn't an inside job?
Ok … so just because 1 or 2 floors are weakened, does not mean the floors above or below were.Let that sink in …….Let's go with the official theory and say the fire weakened a few floors all within a few hours compromising 90% of the steels strength on the floors in question. Ok, so let's say these few floors all collapse at the same time with, an approximate 45–50k tons of floors above them.What happens?Seriously, play it out in your head. You dont have to be a physicist…So the metal framing bends on the given floors or lets say it even it manages to break simultaneously in every location bearing weight (we know this didn't and can't happen… although it does in controlled demos). Ok, so then what??Those floors collapse on themselves and the floors weight bearing trusses and girders all fail. THATS ALL THAT HAPPENS. NOTHING ELSE HAPPENS IN REAL LIFE. THE REMAINING FLOORS WERE NOT COMPROMISED BELOW OR ABOVE.The only time a steel super-structure disintegrates (The portion above and below the small area the plane hit the WTC for example…) is when it is demolished. Fire or even collapse wont pulverize hundreds of steel floors people.This is so blatantly obvious I mean seriously folks. The remaining super structure was intact. A few floors simultaneously collapsing and failing due to heat is not enough to compromise the rest of the super reinforced steel structure below. And Im BEING GENEROUS by conceding that even happened!Even if there were 100k tons above it, IT WOULDN'T IMPLODE ON ITSELF, PULVERIZING THE ENTIRE STRUCTURE AND ELIMINATING THE CORE BEAMS, LET ALONE have PREVENTED THEM FROM SUPPORTING WHAT THEY WERE DESIGNED AND ENGINEERED TO SUPPORT.Think about it.There is no way an asymmetrical plane crash that weakened and heated beams in an asymmetrical fashion WOULD or COULD PRODUCE A FULLY SYMMETRICAL TOTAL GLOBAL FAILURE ON ALL FLOORS..What matters is again.. - Just because a few floors were weakened, does NOT mean the floors above or below were. This is a significant fact. No amount of torsional energy release from 50k-100k of mass on ANY STEEL would result in complete obliteration of the material itself. Where did all the steel go? There should be a huge pile of building material and STEEL below. How did it disintegrate and lose mass so much mass?
Did America overreact to the September 11 attacks when seemingly appropriate governmental and societal regulations and norms, respectively, were already in place at the time?
I was living in Brooklyn at the time of the 9/11 attacks. We could see the plumes of smoke rising from Manhattan from where I live. People I knew personally lost friends and relatives when the towers collapsed. One of my co-workers spent three days wandering the city, searching hospitals and aid centers for his adopted son. The center I worked at dealt with the emotional impact of the situation on the children who attended out after school program for months afterward. every drawing, every essay, every question was about why and how such a terrible thing could happen. In the weeks and months following the attack, the entire city was on high alert. there were soldiers and National Guards everywhere. You couldn’t walk into a building anywhere without two forms of ID. It seemed like every where you turned was another reminder of how vulnerable we were, what a scary world we lived in, and who was to blame.I was part of a group that created a 9/11 memorial in Union Square Park one year after the attack. We put up 80 feet of gridded wall and asked people to write their responses.What was surprising, and gratifying, was the lack of aggression and hatred in the answers people posted. Despite the rhetoric of the government, the overwhelming majority of the responses urged peace and cultural understanding, rejecting the notion that this tragedy should be used as an excuse for violence.People mourned the dead, but did not want the government to prosecute a war in response to their losses. It was very moving, and the wall, plus two auxiliary walls we put up at the last minute were buried five and six layers deep by the end of the day. People gathered to talk to each other, to read the answers others had written, and talk about the politics surrounding the memorial.Yes, the attack was a shock. In many ways, the city is still recovering from the devastation wrought by the terrorists. But New Yorkers were able to look past that first shock, and respond with intelligence and a lack of hatred that was not shown by our government, which used the tragedy to promulgate its own policies without regard for the thoughts and feelings of the victims and their families. I’m sure there were some who agreed with that policy, but it wasn’t evident that day on the wall, and it wasn’t common among people I knew who had been personally affected by the tragedy.