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Searching For An Irish Immigrant Grandfather. Is There Any Way That Immigration Records Are Wrong

If Trump's great grand-father was an immigrant in the US, why is he so xenophobic?

Actually, it was his grandfather who came over here from Germany, so he is only a second-generation American, not third. But I digress…There is a tradition in America for groups of Americans who have been established here for even just one or two generations to look down on newcomers, and it goes back to the beginnings of our nation:"Why should Pennsylvania, founded by the English, become a Colony of Aliens, who will shortly be so numerous as to Germanize us, instead of our Anglifying them."What ignorant clown said this? Oh, that's right, none other than Benjamin Franklin. Otherwise a visionary progressive, Franklin was speaking to some of the more regressive attitudes of mid-18th century Pennamites.The Germans came here, did not disrupt the English-speaking ways of the nascent America, and then promptly discriminated against Irish immigrants seeking relief from the Potato Famine. They, in turn, looked down on the Italians a generation or two later, who looked down upon Eastern Europeans, who looked down upon non-Europeans…Every generation of established people thinks the next wave of immigrants is going to be cultural Armageddon. And for 250 years, they have been wrong. Xenophobes don't have a good track record when it comes to being right; I feel pretty comfortable betting against them again.

If my Great Grandfather was 100% Irish.......?

You are 100% a whole person, an American with Irish ancestry........and no you can't 'look' Irish, the Irish do don't have ONE 'look'....................

Immigrant ship Delaware from ireland passenger list?

Check the WorldCat.org entries for the book entitled:

Emigrants to Pennsylvania, 1641-1819 : a consolidation of ship passenger lists from the Pennsylvania magazine of history and biography, edited by Michael Tepper.
Publisher: Baltimore, Maryland: Genealogical Publishing Co.
It was published in several different years: 1975, 1977, 1979 & 1992.

This is the link to the WorldCat.org entries for the title:
* http://www.worldcat.org/search?q=ti%3AEm...

Source: WorldCat.org - a database of library holdings worldwide
http://www.worldcat.org

Since you posted your question through Y!A UK, I will assume you are in the United Kingdom. Using the WorldCat.org entries for the title, I do find editions of the book held in the following U.K. libraries:
University of Oxford
University of London Research Services, Institute of Historical Research

If you are not in the UK and are in the USA, you can see which US libraries hold the book by looking at the links for each edition of the book listed on the WorldCat.org link above. Or, you can go to your local public library and ask a reference librarian there to help you locate a copy of the book.

The book will probably be in the library reference collection, if it is held by a library in your local public library system (if you are in the USA.) That means you will have to go to the library where it is held and look through it at that library. You will not be able to check it out to take home to look through.

I suspect in the bibliography of the book it will indicate where the original record is kept - possibly the US National Archives and Records Administration.

The copy of the book held by my public library system is at the headquarters branch, in the Genealogy Reference Collection, and I am not there right now, so I cannot look in the book for you.

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Immigrant ship delaware passenger list june 1746 does anyone know of its location?

hi, the book i have is a published book, it is excerpted from selected volumes of the pennsylvania magazine of history and biography published by the genealogical publishing co. inc copy right 1975.
and yes it has some assumption that this man thomas brady is my 6th great grandfather, but with good reason, I have back to a man named samuel brady, born 1779 , that his grandfather came over from ireland as a indentured slave to philadelphia to be taught weaving.. which eventually became a family tradition. there is many lace weavers / weavers throughout my family tree on that side..
Samuel's father was a thomas, and his grandfather a thomas... if i can find this ships record and see the ages and whereabouts i could link this man to my family tree without doubt.. irish, most likely would be catholic and then i could at least narrow my search to catholic records, there would be births marriages and death records hopefully kept be the catholic churches around eastern pa.. like the gosh

Many Roma (Gypsies) immigrated to America from 1900 to 1930. Did they claim to be Roma/Gypsies to US Immigration?

My great-grandmother was Romanichal. When she and her husband (I am unsure if my great-grandfather was Romanichal or not at this point) came to Canada (I’m going to give my experience even though it’s not the U.S. because I think it’s a very similar experience) they did not identify her as Romanichal, simply as English. They furthermore kept the Romanichal roots in the family tree a secret pretty much. Why? Because discrimation was rife against Romanies, in fact, her father had been murdered outside a London pub for being a Romany. So obviously if you go to a new world in search of a new start, you most likely would choose not to make your identity public if it would just result in more persecution/prejudice. It was kept such a secret in my family that I never even knew of my family’s origins in this regard until maybe 10 to 15 years ago when I was doing family research online and a gentleman from England contacted me to say he had been researching the family tree for decades. He thought I knew my origins but I had absolutely no idea.I do a lot of family history research and have tried to trace my Romany roots. But even in days of old, it was commonplace for Romanies to give false information in censuses, etc. for good reason… if you are a persecuted minority, one that largely sets itself apart from the majority population in traditions, way of life, beliefs, etc., then it is understandable that you would not want to give away sensitive information for state/public consumption. I totally understand the reason for this, given the persecution and prejudice they faced, and in no way see it as as negative except that of course it makes it somewhat challenging at times when you are doing family history research. ;)

What's your family's immigration story?

I was adopted by my current dad, but my mother (who he married) was my birth mother.  Genetically, my lineage looks something like this:Paternal lineage -- Mostly French.  P. grandmother claimed 100% French ancestry from her mother via Quebec and her father, whose parents were French via New Orleans.  P. grandfather claimed half English half French ancestry.  I met him several times before he passed away; apparently his mother was "first generation" French, father was several generations separated from England.  I find it hard to believe that P. grandfather was 100% English.  Both were "southern gentry" and snobbishly so.  Maternal lineage -- Mostly English, German and Irish.  M. grandmother was 100% German (nee Kaiser or Kahler changed to "Kailer" somewhere beginning of the 20th Century).  Her mother was 2nd generation German.  Her father was 2nd and 3rd generation German.  Ohio was a target destination for German immigrants, so preserving German ancestry in Ohio was quite easy before WWII.  M. Grandfather was English and I'm told some Irish and German.  Before WWII, there was less cultural mixing.  Germans married Germans.  Brits could (and did) intermarry with aplomb, but German blending was begun around WWII.  M. Grandfather was descended from British Aristocracy and we have the immigration papers to show for it (he had to legally forfeit all claims to any titles when he immigrated and he had special papers too, which were lovely -- before the Great War, there was significant anti-English/Nobility sentiment, both because of the huge Irish and Scottish immigrant populations (who resented the Brits) and because Americans were just not fond of them.Adopted Paternal lineage -- Total muts.  English, Irish, German, Iroquois, Portuguese.  P. Grandfather was English, Irish and Iroquois.  P. Grandmother was Irish, German and Portuguese.

I have a GGG-Grandfather, John Farrell who was born in BallsBridge, Dublin about 1825 (wife, Bridget Harman). No matter how much searching I have tried over the years I cannot get any further back. No church records, baptism, school, etc. Do I need to travel to Dublin and/or employ a Irish genealogy professional?

Before hiring a professional or travelling, look to the online communities for the family name.   It's often said that there are far more Irish beyond the shores of Ireland than within the country; indeed, I'm 3rd generation American but my grandparents on my father's side are both O'Brien.  The O'Brien name has a huge organization at http://obrienclan.com where people connect over more than genealogy.The problem, I've found, with using the family tree sites is that you only uncover research that has been archived and connect with other people in their forums, etc. who are interested in their family tree.  FAR more people aren't.  Poke around Facebook, Google, and Yahoo Groups to find Farrell and Harman groups, clans, etc.  (unfortunately, in my brief search on your behalf, I didn't find any)  If you don't find one, start one.  I'm still shocked at how quickly the O'Brien clan grew from a few individuals to hundreds on Facebook and Twitter and thousands via email.You may not be able to trace your family through those groups BUT the individuals there are more likely to take an interest in your particular search or have a distant connection that draws you closer.One more thought....Set up your family tree on MyHeritage.  It's a newer technology than the tried and true ancestry, et. al.  I've found more living relatives through there than any other means I've employed and our living family tree now numbers in the hundreds.  How?  The site tries to match my (your) tree with every other one on the platform and in doing so, enables you to connect them and meet the other individuals.  It's entirely likely that someone else to whom you are distantly related has traced their history and knows a bit more than you can find in online archives.

Americans, do you have to go far back in your family tree to find an immigrant?

On my mom’s side, my grandma was born in the Philippines so 2 generations back.On my dad’s side, much further back. My great great grandfather, Schuyler Van Rensselaer Sherman changed his name to Mannville Schuyler Sherman. I guess his name was too Dutch. Mannville Schuyler Sherman’s mother (or my great great great grandmother) was Lidia Abiah Olendorf. We know Mannville Schuyler Sherman was born in Chenango County NY and have pictures of him and my great great grandmother from 1925, and some of my living elderly relatives talk about him.I am not 100% sure if his mother, Lidia Abiah Olendorf was born in the US. I highly suspect she was a Ashkenazim Jewish immigrant from Germany or maybe Eastern Europe. Her father John Jackson Olendorf, and mother Clarissa Abiah Newton I suspect are fake because both have a birthdate “unknown” and birth place “unknown” and all have her German names as elements of their names, mixed with Anglo-Celtic ones.If it wasn’t some odd coverup, and my great great great grandma happened to have a Hebrew middle name, German last name, and German first name by coincidence, then my great great grandfather’s father Schuyler Vanunsler Sherman, had a father Lewis Sherman (whose ancestors were all definitely in the US within 2 decades of the Mayflower if not on the Mayflower), and a mother Emiline Burghdorf.Emiline’s father was Peter Bergdorf. I presume he was from Bergdorf between Minden and Hannover. He immigrated to the US before 1831, at which point they likely changed his spelling to ‘Burghdorf’ (I imagine he pronounced his /g/ with a fricative of some sort, as at the time in question, where he was from spoke something-Low German, and many languages in that area shifted */g/ to [ɣ]).So, if Clarissa Abiah Olendorf was born in Germany, then 4 generations back.If not, and all of this is a coincidence and I am paranoid for no reason, then 6 generations back on my dad’s side, and 2 generations back on my mom’s.Going the other way (Lewis Sherman’s father) I have to go 9 generations back before I find an immigrant to the late 1700s.

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