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Who Believes We Need A Government

What did John Locke believe about government?

John Locke, one of my favorites, was a profound English philosopher during the Enlightenment era. The Enlightenment era being a more freely speaking era in Europe with much less censorship by the church or state. John Locke stated that "Man without control, censorship, or social contract was good in nature, with only isolated cases stating otherwise, and the state should leave him (man) alone for his freedom and prosperity to continue unhindered." In other words, he was a freedom fighter and believed in individuality and freedom, much like the founding Fathers of America. John Locke was quite the opposite to Thomas Hobbes, who believed that a "Social Contract" was necessary to keep man in line. A social contract being that people give up some, often all, of their freedom to the government in return for security, much like the Soviet Union. His stance in being for a bigger government derived because, unlike John Locke, he believed that man was in nature "solitary, poor, nasty, brutish and short" I will sum it up, John Locke = less government, government being large is unnecessary and only detriment's peoples liberty. People are good in nature. Thomas Hobbes, the opposite of John Locke = Government being large is necessary because people are stupid, cruel, and and rather slow.

Why do we need a government?

Direct democracy doesn't function beyond a small society, which is why there hasn't been one of note since Ancient Athens. That's fine if you want a bunch of small societies, but a large nation is more stable economically and can better resist invasion. Remember, the city-states of Ancient Greece were at constant war within and ultimately conquered by forces from outside.

As for the US, we tossed out the articles of confederation, which essentially made each state autonomous countries, in favor of the constitution with it's stronger central government for precisely this reason. Until then our economy was collapsing under the weight of tariffs and money exchanges and we could never have won the war of 1812.

The strength of the central government expanded significantly with the civil war and the new deal. The civil war was the realization that a strong central government is necessary for the preservation of the nation as a single functioning unit, that those who wanted to go back to the articles of confederation and decide each issue for themselves represented a threat to the cohesiveness of the country. The 14th amendment, which is one of the three that came out of the war, guaranteed that each state, not just the federal government, had to offer the basic rights and protections of the constitution. If they don't want to, they must try to change the constitution, not simply abandon the nation or ignore the will of the rest of it.

The New Deal was the realization that actions by a large government can be for the protection of the people, not only of big business. A government that knows it will be around for a while can deficit spend to jump start the economy and pay it back later when the economy is good (or, which is better if you can do it, save in good times so you don't draw a deficit in bad times, but either way you need presidents in good times willing to cut spending and keep excess revenue on hand, which is politically difficult to do).

The most basic purpose of government is security.  Security being defined as the "state of being free from danger or threat".Government is to secure:1. The individual against another individual.2. The individual against a group.3. A group against another group.To achieve this basic purpose, the government must also secure itself:4. Against an individual or group within it.5. Against an individual or group outside of it.The voluntary agreement among individual members of a society to form a government is known as the social contract.  In doing so, individuals sacrifice part of their individual freedom and power for individual and communal protection.Against this basic purpose of law and order, one may add all the myriad purposes that government has been given or arrogated to itself, such as building infrastructure, priming and maintaining the  economy,  preserving natural resources, and taxing you - endlessly.  If we consolidate all these other purposes with the basic purpose, we can say that the ultimate purpose of government is to serve its people.Time and time again, this telos has been turned on its head. It is not unknown that governments will act contrary to this basic purpose.  It is not unknown that an individual or a group within a government will seize power and dominate the entire country for their own ends.  It is not unknown that the government of one country will seize control of another and dominate that country for its own ends.  It is not unknown for the governments of several countries to coalesce for good (European Union) or for bad (Axis powers).Governments are like God: if it did not exist it would be necessary to invent it.

3 reasons why we need government??

1) Because Global Warming was proven to be fake, Climate Change is a scam, and the people who cast their votes or make decisions have finally caught on. 2) Because anyone with a brain is on the internet and has cottoned on to the concept that green is the new red. They will use anything, even the environment, to tax or take away your rights and freedoms. 3) Because the entire idea of a government run by humans like Al Gore who can't even control his personal "urges" running or controlling the world's weather is preposterous. How much money has that bastard made selling "green credits" based on his silly theory?! China is still getting a free pass on polluting the entire planet while Americans are regulated on what kind of toilet or light bulbs they use? WTF?! That's why. Because we trust the lying POSs in charge about as far as we can throw them— which is none too far.

Do we really need Government?

What you're advocating is philosophical anarchism. It's an old idea; and one that has been tried numerous times over the centuries to no good effect.

There's a simple problem with your view -- it only works if every single person in society behaves perfectly. Without government, what do you do if someone attacks you? What do you do if someone just wants something you have and decides to harm you to get it?

Every time anarchy has been tried in the past it has failed because the fact is, people aren't angels, and aren't going to behave like them. What happens under true anarchy isn't peace and love, but a Hobbesian state of nature -- a "War of each against all."

So the question stands. What do you do when you or your loved ones are attacked by others? What you do is band together with like minded individuals for mutual defense. You create rule to live by, and get people to enforce those rules. In short, you create government, because you need order.

Can governments go too far? You bet. But your original question was "do we really need government?" And the answer to that question is, "Yes, we do."

Cheers, mate.

I’m both liberal and progressive.I believe in limiting government.Every single liberal and progressive I know believes the same.Every single conservative I know believes in limiting government.There’s not a really big difference between these two camps on how far government’s reach.The real difference between those two camps, conservative vs liberal, in my opinion, liberals and progressives believe more in limiting government’s strength when it comes to the personal choices we make, those that don’t negatively affect others, we don’t think government should have reach.We do not like a stringent limit on government when it comes to non people.Like corporations, they get less rights and more government regulations than individuals as far as liberals are concerned.I think conservatives conflate people with corporations, believing the corporate marketing which promotes “if we limit government for people we need to limit government for corporations too”Liberals find quite a distinction between people and corporate.Every single conservative I know, including those claiming libertarian principles, believe in some kind of government control over the social/economic discourse.That is what a government is for after all.The answer really is, just about everyone you can find believes in limiting government.The depth and breath of those limits is the rub.

Why do so many Americans need the government to solve all their problems?

Government can not solve problems, IT IS THE problem
Most of the politicians never had to work for a living, so how can they help us.

There is not one government agency that has the slighest bit of efficiency about it. If any agency or government department were it's own company it would be out of business within 90 days.
Except for the military, we could fire half of the government employees and no one would know the difference then we could lay off the other half.

Most Americans don't want hand outs, they don't want the government telling what they should do, what they should eat, what cars to drive, how they should drive, how to educate their kid. Most Americans can stand on their own two feet and make any thing work..
This is why America is the greatest country that every existed in the known world

BUT we have many so called Americans, most of them are the hyphenated Americans of those liberals who believe the are owed something, they want to sponge off their hard work neighbors, they are too lazy to work themselves, or too ignorant to learn the American customs, ways and language.

For these goup of lemmings, we have the government to provide for them by giving them welfare, childcare, education, affirmative action, and whatever these leeches want (not need) all of this at the expense of the true hard working American citizens.

"Government" of some sort has existed for as long as humans have been around, it seems, and longer. Our ancestors were primates and mammals, and even among the uncivilized fauna of the world, pecking orders emerge. Wolf packs, for example, have hierarchies that are clear to the animals - the hierarchy determining who gets what and who doesn't. For humans, though, in the 17th century, there lived many philosophers that debated this very question. What is the purpose of government?John Locke believed that human nature is characterized by reason and tolerance, and that, for the most part humans would make choices that would not necessarily be destructive to society - at least not intentionally. From Locke we can derive many American fundamentals - in a natural state (i.e. how humans would naturally exist without authority) a man had a right to defend his "Life, Health, Liberty, and Possessions". This is not terribly far from the American mantra, "Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness." In Locke's eyes, government's purpose was to preserve the natural state by playing a less-authoritative middle negotiator for solving civil conflict when it arose. It was in this simple role that Locke believed government would allow for society to continue civilly.Locke very much gives us a philosophy that is in line with most modern first world governments.Thomas Hobbes had quite the opposite view. He felt that human nature is characterized primarily by action derived from passion, in the moment. This was a way of characterizing a time in Europe that was war torn. It was a way of saying that humans without guidance or rails would tear modern society apart.In his view, because human nature itself was so volatile, driven by selfish guttural greed and desire, that government's role was to keep that born-in behavior in check. Law and enforcement thereof was critical to keeping a society functioning, lest it devolve into chaotic anarchy. ------I'm certain that a broad survey of modern and archaic governments will turn up a lot of different reasons for Government's existence and establishment, but I think those can be largely summarized into one key point that both Locke and Hobbes agreed: to maintain a civil society.Sources:John LockeThomas Hobbes