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Why Did Bilbo Turn Evil When He Seen His Old Ring On Frodo

If Bilbo got older when he gave up his ring, why then is Gollum alive after 60 years?

Many answers here will be far greater than mine, but I’d like to offer some info.This wasn’t stressed as much in the films as they were in the books, but Tolkein went into deep discussion about the behavior of Hobbits. He constantly stressed how odd they were, how simple. This is one of the reasons Gandalf was always so in love with them as his time there represented a ‘vacation’ from the ills and seriousness of the world around them. They like strong drink, they like food, they like company, they like Gandalfs fireworks. That’s it.Bilbo giving up the ring willingly was one of the oddest things ever to occur in the history of the ring.This stresses the true strength of the Hobbits and why they, and they alone, are the only ones who can be safely entrusted with it. They do not desire power, they only desire the simple life.Bilbo (and Frodo, eventually) are never true Hobbits anymore after their time with the ring the way Samwise is. Sam goes home, starts a family, lives the simple life. Both Bilbo and Frodo have been tainted by their time with the ring and must go elsewhere to find peace (with the elves across the sea).Digressing, Bilbo is the only person EVER to have willingly given up the ring. Gandalf had to scare him up a bit to get him to do it, but leaving that ring on the floor and walking out of Bags End is the illustration of EXACTLY why only a Hobbit can be trusted with the ring.Gandalf wasn't completely convinced Bilbo would actually give it up (though he always hoped he would be correct), but was deeply relieved when Bilbo dropped it and went on his way. The films did a crappy job of illustrating Gandalfs deep love for Bilbo and ran ahead right away with his relationship with Frodo.Bilbo was much more of a ‘True Hobbit’ than Frodo was (shown throughout the books), but the reader can assume that even though Bilbo could give up the ring, he likely wouldn’t have been able to destroy it either.

Why did Bilbo turn evil when he seen his old ring on Frodo?


Was gollum ever good? why/when? or why not?


Constructing the history of Gollum prior to his appearance in Tolkien’s books comes to the reader through Gandalf’s exposition, and in Tolkien’s indices for the trilogy. The young adventuring Bilbo first encounters Gollum when he is already approximately five hundred years old. His having been a bearer of Sauron’s ring for a lengthy time period has caused him to warp, twist and grow steadily more evil in mind and body, and he is unrecognizable to Bilbo as a former hobbit. Tolkien did intend for Gollum to be a hobbit ancestor, more closely related to Frodo than to Bilbo. He associates Gollum with the early Stoors, who colonized part of the Shire and bear relationship especially to the Brandybucks, a tribe to which Frodo’s mother belonged.

This relationship is not happenstance, and Gollum’s longstanding possession of the ring shows how hobbits are capable of bearing the ring without dying for long periods of time. Men tend to become more quickly corrupted by it, and quickly fade or become wraiths under its influence. Hobbits, conversely, can resist this tendency, as Bilbo did for sixty-one years. Of course, long possession of such an instrument of evil would corrupt anyone, and it almost instantaneously corrupts Gollum, who murders his friend Deagol right after finding the ring. There is a lot of scholarly dispute on whether Gollum was already partially corrupt, since he is so quick to murder to keep what he later refers to as “his birthday present” or “precious.”

After murdering his friend, Sméagol earns his nickname of "Gollum" because of the throat noise he makes that sounds like gulping, and he is turned out from his home, as his evil tendencies grow. Finally, the light of the sun drives him under the Misty Mountains, where he preys on fish and unsuspecting young goblins. He has lived nearly 400 years in the Mountains when Bilbo first encounters him, and has his famous game of “riddles in the dark,” making off with Gollum’s precious ring in the bargain. More...

The Lord of the Rings (creative franchise): Why did Frodo, Gandalf, Bilbo and many Elves get on a boat and leave for the Undying Lands at the end of The Return of The King?

For the five Ring-Bearers, their journey to the Undying Lands is a reward for their efforts against Sauron, and a respite from weariness. For two of them it's also a homecoming.Frodo is granted the right to travel to the Undying Lands as a special divine grace. He is wounded in body, mind, and spirit, and knows that he will never heal in Middle Earth. Arwen offers him her place on the boat, and at the same time she gives him a white gem that offers him some strength. Bilbo goes with him as a companion and also because he was a Ringbearer. He too has been affected by the One Ring and suffers weariness subsequent to its destruction. Neither Bilbo nor Frodo is being granted immortality, just the chance for peace and healing. (This is not clear in the books but is clear in some of Tolkien's other writings.)Upon the destruction of the One, the Three Rings are shorn of their power. Elrond and especially Galadriel have used their rings in part to stave off the effects of time on their realms, and the weariness of the world basically comes crashing down on them. Galadriel's use of Nenya has also had the effect of increasing her sea-longing and desire to sail.Gandalf and Galadriel are going home. Gandalf is in origin a Maia, an angelic being. He and the other wizards originally came from the Undying Lands, clothed in actual bodies as of old Men. He will presumably be able to return to his status as a spirit rather than as an incarnate. Galadriel was born in the Undying Lands, coming to Middle-Earth nearly 7000 years before. She was a leader of the rebellious Noldor and was not given, or else refused, the right to return to the West. Her exile is lifted in recognition of her efforts against Sauron and above all for her rejection of the Ring.Elrond also has a personal connection to the Undying Lands: his wife is there, having left to seek healing 500 years earlier, following her abduction and torture by orcs.As for the other Elves making the trip, Sauron is defeated and the dominion of Men is at hand. Most of them have no further reason to stay.

Why is Bilbo Baggins not showing any signs of the ring's tormenting and turning him as Frodo had experienced in the trilogy of The Lord of the Rings?

Time is a confusing thing when you watch the movies and don't compare them to the books.The Hobbit is allllll the way in the beginning. Sauron has just begun his journey back up in power and that's when Bilbo finds the ring. So in the book ánd in the movies, Bilbo hasn't been exposed to the ring that much.In the LOTR movies we don't get a whole lot of background. It's obvious that Bilbo is older, but how much older we don't really know. So we don't really realize how much time has passed between finding the ring and the beginning of the LOTR movies. That would be 61 years. Bilbo celebrates his 111 birthday and he was 50 when he started his journey with the dwarves. And we get a few clues to how much he is tormented by the ring, both in the LOTR movies and in the book. He is very unwilling to pass the ring on to Frodo, gets angry at Gandalf for insisting on it, and when Frodo meets Bilbo again in Rivendel and Bilbo asks to see the ring again, there's a very tense moment that makes clear that Bilbo is still connected to the ring.Anyways. So Frodo gets the ring when he turns 33. And he starts his journey 17 years later, in the book. Also when he was 50. All in all he owns the ring a whole lot shorter than Bilbo and he also doesn't use it. We're not exactly told in the book, but there is no mention of him using it during those 17 years. Bilbo used it more often, but only to escape unwanted visitors and encounters, so that couldn't have been that often either.What is tormenting for Frodo of course is firstly that the power of Sauron has grown but more than that it's the proximity of the ring wraiths and the wound he receives at Weather Top. And then traveling closer and closer to Mordor and the power of Sauron makes the influence of the ring all the bigger.

After destroying the ring, why does Frodo leave Middle Earth?

Frodo had been badly hurt in the War of the Ring, and perhaps even paid a cost higher than any other survivor. Frodo had been stabbed with a magical Morgul blade by the Witch King of Angmar. Not only had this very nearly killed him, but it left physical and psychic wounds which never entirely healed. He had also been poisoned by the giant, malevolent spider, Shelob. But the burden of carrying the One Ring all the way to Mordor and to the fires of Mount Doom damaged him even more profoundly. No mortal was ever intended to carry such a weight. The constant struggle between his own good intentions and the sweet secret whisperings of the Ring must have been indescribably awful.When the war ended, Frodo was anxious to return to the thing he had always loved best, the hope of which had sustained him through the worst of his travails—the Shire. We can be certain that he hoped he would continue to heal there, and would someday resume an active life. But in this, at least, he was wrong. His pain and his alienation never ceased. He had already healed as much as it was possible to do so, at least in the mortal world. Any further healing would have to be at the hands of the gods—the Valar. And so Frodo ultimately sailed with Cirdan, Galadriel, Elrond, Gandalf, and the other maimed Ring Bearer, Bilbo, to the Undying Lands.

Why did Gollum turn ugly?

The Ring, because for one thing it caused him to live so long and be so old, and it caused him to live in the cave to hide so no one can find him or the ring. And the ring because it brings out the evil, and ugliness in anyone it even almost changed Frodo in the end. And Remember when Bilbo sees Frodo with the ring. Bilbo looked plain scary when he wanted the ring. So yeah, definetly the ring.