Republicans why are you always content to judge your guys by selective parts of their terms?
Wow Obi Con I can cut & paste lists too Ahmed Chalibli, Yellow Cake Uranium, WMD, Secret Energy Policy meetings Violations of FISA court laws Greeted as liberators, The rebuilding will pay for itself, mission accomplished, No plan for the aftermath, the last throes of the insurgency, Terri Shiavo, Anthrax Osama Not Captured illicitly diverted $700 million from Afghanistan to Iraq Katrina, Harriet Myers, Heckuva job Brownie, Paul Bremmer, Scooter Libby, Alberto "I forgot everything I did but yes I'm competent to do my job" Gonzales, Jack Abramoff, Valerie Plame, Loss of Habeas Corpus Torture Policy Gay Prostitute/Reporter Jeff Gannon Gitmo, Abu Graib, Extrodainary renditions, Secret prisons Color coded warnings that magically disappeared after elections, duct tape, Walter Reed, Emails deleted Iranian Nuclear program lies Bob Ney Duke Cunningham David Vitter Larry Craig and WIDE stances Trent Lott's bribe taking family Ted Stevens Bridges to nowhere and Alaskin corruption DESTROYED evid
Why are conservative minorities always called "tokens"....?
@NSpecter : You are the type that will keep racism from the left, alive and well... With your mindset that Republicans elect a minority as a "token" , and not for their individual beliefs and morals, that sounds like denial. Denial that conservative minorities have their own mind, and can think differently from their Liberal brothers and sisters......like I said, that is an irrational thought process... I think it's anger more than anything else when a Liberal minority says it, like they are betraying them......irrational, the lot of you.
Who do you think is worse, the extreme liberals or the extreme conservatives?
This is an interesting question to me because it kind of demonstrates a problem with how people casually define liberalism. They confuse it with the left. You can in fact be a conservative and a liberal at the same time, as was Oliver Wendell Holmes Jr. It also shows how the current understanding of conservatism is tied up with some rather flat understandings of politics from the right. It is a sad state of affairs.Liberalism has been the dominant political force in American politics from the Revolution through to the backlash to the Civil Rights era when the GOP flipped to accommodate the Dixiecrats and exploit that to obtain national dominance. Liberalism was less of a partisan identity than a structural way of organizing democratic problem solving. Franklin, Hamilton, Madison, Washington, Lincoln, both Roosevelts and Eisenhower were for all practical purposes liberals. You avoided arguments on first principles, kept appeals to power out of debate, worked on consensus building and depended on systems and institutions to execute impartially and with a certain level of disinterestedness the result of that consensus. In this liberalism could be in a pretty broad ideological range from left to right. It could, as with Theodore Roosevelt, Harry Truman and McKinley, be for a strong defense, imperial expansion and fair labor practices and civil rights all at the same time, integrating what can be seen as right and left ideas. In the case of more conservative thinkers, such as Justice Holmes, it could embrace First Amendment protections while establishing sensible limits. Liberalism as a way of thinking always avoided extremes.Liberals traditionally avoided strong left and right positions. For example, it was anti-communist and pushed labor to the center. Liberalism is why we don’t celebrate May Day. Liberalism is also why we have, thanks to FDR and Truman, a strong defense establishment.With this context I have to come down on the side of the liberals.