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Why Do Principals Refuse To Discuss Teacher Discipline

How can a head teacher apply the principle of scepticism when making disciplinary judgements of cases involving both pupils and staff?

Having been improperly disciplined as a teacher, I have an interesting take on this.First, don't trust what either side says without evidence. Objectivity should be the guiding principle. Also, the principal should actually talk to the accused, and get their side of the story. Again, the emphasis had been on evidence, not finger pointing and name calling.What happened to me should never have happened, and it should serve as a warning to anyone who believes that due process should be removed, and that we should believe the “victim” without question.In my case, the investigator adhered to the “start by believing” doctrine and unquestioningly believed a crying student who told her I was harassing her.I had documented the “victim's” behavior toward me and could demonstrate that she had lied in her complaint.I had a written text that I had sent to a friend, detailing that the girl had creeped me out, and that I was scared of her.The investigator altered this to say “I miss her so much,” pretty much the exact opposite of what I actually said.When the investigator called my witnesses, they told her that I was the one being harassed. A few of them even told her that they had seen her come on to me.The investigator altered the witness statements, claiming that they had testified that they told me to “let it go.” Fortunately, one of my witnesses had the foresight to actually record the phone call, so we know that the investigator lied.When I showed the investigator texts the girl had sent me (still not sure how she got my number) asking to come over to my place, they decided to cover it up.They also found students willing to call in threats, telling everyone that I had an arsenal of assault rifles. I don't own even one.I'm not entirely sure who all was involved in the swatting attempt, but when I finally got the name of one of them, it was someone who I had never met. The few of them that did know me were retaliating because I had turned in one of their friends the year before for making threats.The administrator in charge believed all of this, again without question. I was punished without any hearing whatsoever, and was never permitted to know about the swatting (let alone refute it with hard evidence)of until it was all over.Which is all illegal.So, if you want to know how to apply skepticism to disciplinary proceedings… basically do the exact opposite of the above.

What are the best ways to suck up to your principal if you're a teacher?

First off, DON'T INVITE US TO YOUR HOUSE! That is a conflict of interest.

What we want you to do is keep kids out of our office for stupid stuff (talking in class, tapping pencils, refusing to work, making jokes) those are your problem to fix.

Get test scores up (do summative and formative assessments regularly to show progress)

Don't whine about things we tell you must be done (we don't always like it either, but they have to be done)

Help out with projects

Come talk to us before things blow up. Keep us informed of potential/escalating problems. If you need support go to your support staff and elicit their help. If there is no support staff, talk to us. Being proactive is always a plus.

And one of the most important. Don't associate with the negative teachers. Do your job, eat your lunch, do your planning, and go home and enjoy your family,pets, whatever. Negative teachers can destroy your career and reputation. Plus, teachers who know when to say enough is enough and go home to decompress tend to be the best teachers.

I'm asking teachers, what makes a bad principal?

One who...
1. doesn't really like his job or children
2. doesn't have a genuine desire to make the school an effective and safe place of learning
3. doesn't set goals or make plans
4. doesn't include his teachers and staff in the accomplish of those goals
5. doesn't give/share credit where it is due
6. doesn't allow for individual teachers' creativity
7. is afraid to discipline or remove disruptive children so that others can learn
8. fails to take control of a situation when it gets out of hand
9. fails to do what's right in lieu of what's popular.

Can a teacher take away a student's chair as a disciplinary tool?

That's horrible! It's completely inappropriate for a teacher to be doing that, and it's abusive. School should be a safe and supportive place for kids to learn and grow! If I were you I would go to the school and raise holy hell. Complain to the school board if you don't get anywhere with the principal. It doesn't matter what your child did; there's no way she deserved that! Is there any way to send your child to a different school? I would be seriously concerned about what other abuses are going at the school if they did that to your child! I'm so sorry that you and your child are having to deal with something like this!

ETA - All of you who are saying that you are teachers and that you do this on a regular basis are sick, sick people. My brother had crap like that done to him when he was in elementary school, and it has seriously affected him in negative ways. Why on earth would you go into education if you feel like it's right to treat children like that? I sincerely hope you people are just trolls! How disgusting! Think about what you are doing to those kids! If that ever happened to my child, I would pursue legal action against you. You should be fired and lose your licenses. You have no business having anything to do with children.

Who should be responsible for discipline in a school? Why?

Usually it works like this: There are a set of discipline issues that only a principal or VP should handle. They usually include fights, drugs, threats, violence of any kind, extreme disrespect or refusal to cooperate with a teacher. Teachers pretty much have to handle everything else. Those "other" things usually have a certain number of "warnings" like 1st strike, 2nd strike, 3rd strike, etc...usually at or after the third offense it then goes to higher admin because a teacher is there to teach, not deal with petty BS after a certain number of times. Really, though, parents are the key. If parents have no consequences or don't care if lil Johnny gets suspended, then he really isn't going to care, now is he? That's where the whole thing kind of breaks down.

Is A Teacher Allowed To Poke You During Class?

Your IT teacher is not permitted to poke you in the back or anywhere. I don't know which state you live in, but almost 2/3 of the states do not permit teachers to discipline students by any physical means. That would include being poked in the back. However, like some of the other responders to your question, I wonder what exactly you are doing in his IT class that makes him angry. Of course, he shouldn't be poking you, but nether should you be disrupting the class or disrespecting him or other students in the class. Neither should you be using the computer to communicate with other students or using the internet to search inappropriate sites.

If your teacher get upset with you over and over again, this is what he has the authority to do: (1) he can drop you from his class, (2) he can dismiss you from the class for undesirable behavior, (3) he can report you to the counselor, the assistant principal, or the principal. Any of those school people can suspend you and have your parents come into school and meet with the counselor, the assistant principal, or the principal, and (4) he can have you expelled from school and you will never be able to go back to that school or any other school in your home school district.

So you have put yourself in a very dangerous spot if the IT teacher complains to the counselor, the assistant principal, or the principal. You may lose the opportunity to graduate from high school. You will certainly lose your friends. If you continue to be disruptive in the IT class, you may not be able to graduate from high school. I believe you have reached a critical decision point. If you have not reached it, then you may still be able to change your fate. Be huumble, be honest, and be honorable. Talk to your IT instructor first, tell him you will stop disrupting the class and apologize. You will be saving your future if you are man enough to say you are sorry. Best of luck,

Can I flip off my teacher in school?

Is there any way that you should possibly be able to get into trouble for flipping off a teacher? I find that it would be extremely ridiculous for someone to get into any form of trouble just because they face a certain finger toward someone, however I am completely uneducated on the origin of the meaning of the middle finger and whether or not it is, in any form, officially accepted as an insult.

As a personal note, I wish to flip off my teacher because he is constantly a sarcastic douche. I would also like to know whether or not that is even legal as a teacher because I am bullied on almost a constant basis by him and he gets away with it because he thinks it's funny and he can call it sarcasm. Is it legal to make fun of a student so harshly even if you perceive it to all be in good fun? And could I seriously just go around insulting my students as a teacher just because of my demented reality? I think what he is doing to me is highly illegal and should not be allowed in any school system. Should I try to get him fired? And is there any way I could wait until after I graduate to do so? I do not wish this to affect my academic career but I do not wish for him to abuse any future students who are forced to have a similar experience as myself.

I am very interested in this because in my current state of mind I believe many teachers would not tolerate a student flipping them off and would therefore punish them. As a result of this it would most likely be incredibly easy to sue a school or teacher for unjustly performing this disciplinary action as it is simply a finger and an excuse as to why you had your middle finger up, if it is even necessary at all, would be very easy to create.

I believe the closest punishable action to this would be cursing which is only punishable because it disrupts the classroom environment, so does sticking up a finger do this as well just because others recognize it as a sign of disrespect toward an authoritative figure?

I am very interested in any information related to the topic, thank you very much for taking the time to read.

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