If conservative Muslims who live in the West don't like Western society, then why are they not moving to a Muslim country?
I personally think that it’s not that they don’t like Western society in itself. If they hate the West so much, why would they even be there? I think what they don’t like is how Western societies are often less tolerant of conservatives. I mean, look at this. If a person who has spent his whole life living a non-conservative lifestyle and for some reason had to migrate to a place of overly conservative people, what would he feel or think? If a man is used to bars and liquor and music and theaters and unrestricted socializing and partial/full nudity is to live in a place like, say, Saudi Arabia, won’t he find it difficult to live there?Reasons may vary. You must understand that not every Muslim in the West is a migrant from another country. Many are Westerners themselves and leaving their homeland may not be a welcomed idea. Many Muslims migrants have sacrificed so much for a better life for themselves and their families. It is possible that they fear that leaving the land that made them successful would mean going back to the old life they already once escaped.Besides, migrating is not simple. Most of the Muslim countries today are in the Middle-East, Africas, the Subcontinent, and in Southeast Asia. Not all of the countries there are English- or European-speaking. Families will have to save money in order to be able to buy properties there. Moving out would mean finding new jobs, attending new schools. Don’t even forget about possible culture shock! In simplest terms, it’s easier said or thought than done. Most of the Muslim countries today are either developing or underdeveloped countries. The very few developing or developed countries like UAE, Bahrain, Qatar, although very protective of Muslims, are not very conservative at all. Sure, there are mosques and the Shariah, but bars are everywhere too. Saudi Arabia could be an option. But they don’t offer citizenship to non-Saudis.Conservative Muslims don’t have to move. They don’t have to force their government to implement Shariah for their sake either. Muslims will need to be patient and should learn to adjust without compromising their religiosity. Western society, on the other hand, will have to be more understanding and respectful of other people’s choice. If some buddhists choose to be ascetic, if priests and nuns choose to be celibate, if Jews can refuse to eat what is not kosher, why shouldn’t Muslims be allowed to be conservative?
Why do Muslims immigrate to western countries?
"Are you assuming that muslims are not western? So jews, christians, hindus, atheists can all fit in but muslims can't? Why can't the west leave the middle east alone and leave their oil alone, can you answer that? Have you read the Quran? It's more liberating then the bible and torah." I think this and others are saying something interesting. A lot of Westerners have said they don't want Muslims in their countries. Muslims don't want Americans and Europeans in their countries. Well Muslims have been coming to West for far longer than the American military has been in the Middle East. The U.S. and Europe were attacked by people who immigrated or came to the U.S. under false pretenses, so it would seem that the Muslim countries have a burden in this.
Do Muslims hate Western countries because of how sexually immoral they are?
The west mocks us because our women cover themselves up and call us patriarchal and oppressive. They say we force our women to do such things without knowing the purpose and reasons behind it. They say hijab, niqab and burka are the symbols weakness and inequality. Basically insult us because of our abstinence and calls us stupid.At the same time they force their women to show skin, sexualize women to please the male demographic. They normalize rape culture, catcalling, bastardy. They have even built industries like porn, erotic movies, clubs etc etc using women as the attraction.It's quite ironic when you think about it, because there isn't much difference to what they do as to what they accuse us of doing. If wearing a hijab is oppressive then why isn't wearing a bikini in public oppressive? A lot of western parents won't let their daughters wear such clothing in public solely because she is their own daughter.Now to be honest, one of the reasons why Muslims hate the west is this. This hate isn't ‘they committed heresy, lynch them’ kind of hate. It is sort of, ‘that kid does drugs, don't mix with him’ kind of hate. Muslims understand that it's the western culture and they have been growing up and living in such society and amidst such norms and customs that Muslims consider immoral. Not all westerners obviously support these and not all of them act in such ways. What Muslims believe in is Allah shows the way to those that he wants. Only Allah control their fates. So what they do or don't isn't any of the Muslim’s concerns.Even though we resent such ideology and social customs what we actually think is as long as we aren't indulging in such deeds it doesn't matter what the west is doing. What we can do is preach and that too without hate, because hate begets hate. If they listen, good. If they don’t, that's also good. Because end of the day every one is accountable for their own deeds.
Why is the WESTERN WORLD JEALOUS FROM MUSLIMS?
the western media keeps telling lies about Islam in order to make their citizens hate Islam more & more. Why are the Westerns so Jealous from us?? Is it because we are cleaner than them (We wash ourselves more than 5 times a day)? Is it because Muslim women are modest & respectful & they haven`t lost their honour or became public properties or sex objects like most of the western women? Is it because even though we are living in our darkest point in our history & we are suffering from poverty but still there are no high suicide rates in our countries if compared to the numbers in the wealthy west? Is it because we have moral values like the previous examples that I gave above & the western world has nothing except materilistic concepts which are going to fall sooner or later (it already started) while people in the Muslim world (Muslims or non-Muslims) have their religion as the top priority in their lives which is the reason why there are almost no atheists in the Muslim world?
To everyone who thinks badly of muslims!?
Now, I know a lot of you people out there hate muslims, but please read this, as it will help clear our name. The majority of people think that muslims are terrorists - this is partially true. You see, it is the muslim countries who ruin our name. The government over there are, well, stupid. They send out hundreds of soldiers to invade, bombard, attack and everything else to other countries/citizens. They do not know that their maniacal actions affect us, peaceful muslims. As you know, lots of muslims immigrate over to western countries (Like London or Australia). These are the muslims that are trying to escape from their country. Over there, they could be killed so easily. Just because of that, doesn't mean you should look down on them. Here in Australia, there are many muslims that I know - They are friendly, respectful and grateful. These poor muslims however are treated harshly/badly because of the muslim countries. The government over there is stupid and can not think for themselves. Their actions make the whole world think badly at the peaceful muslims. And I know that some people want to ban muslims from coming into the western countries. But why would you say that? It isn't their fault that the typical stereotypes are going around. They came here to escape from what they used to live in. More people should be educated on what REAL muslims are like. It is so stupid for everybody to look down on the muslims here, just because of the muslim countries making bad decisions!!! So, what do you think? Are you going to go along with what the rest of the world thinks, or are you actually going to think for yourself about what is going on? If you read until the end, Thank you.
Why don't Muslims migrate to other Muslim countries instead of the West?
As it stands today, the so called Muslim countries don't really follow true Islam, and especially the teachings of social welfare and justice system of Islam. The real Islam is overtaken by various new and innovative versions of Islam, which, for the sake of this question we can call Islam 2. Various Islam 2.x versions of Islam, which are benefitting only the extremists, politicians, thugs, corrupt, royals and the rich, have made the so called Muslim countries very unattractive places to live. Remember, matters of the state and matters of religion has a separation in a true Islamic system, but we see the opposite in most of the Muslim countries these days.The Western countries maintain a separation between religion and state matters, and by far and large follow the social system which doesn't exist in most of the Muslim countries any longer, and which actually indeed was there in many of the Muslim countries until few decades ago (1970s), up until the rise of the extremists.The above is the major reason why citizens, whether Muslims or not, of the so called Muslim countries, migrate to the West where they have freedom and can live a productive and happier life.Unfortunately, extremism in the West is also on the rise lately.When it comes to war situation, reality is that majority of the affected Muslims migrate to other Muslim countries. Its only a small number which migrates to the West. And since West makes a lot of noise about it, so you feel like they are migrating to the West.For example, since the start of the soviet war, Pakistan has hosted over 1.5 million Afghan refugees, and this is only the official figure. Unofficial figure is higher. This has been the primary cause of the rise of the jihadists in Pakistan, coming from Afghanistan, trained to fight the Soviet armies. With Soviet armies gone, they brought their 'skills' to Pakistan UNHCR - PakistanSince the start of the Syrian conflicts, over 1.7 million refugees are living in Turkey as of last year. It is higher now. Syrian Refugees in Turkey: The Long Road AheadOver 2.1 million UN registered Syrian refugees are living in Egypt, Iraq and Jordan. UNHCR Syria Regional Refugee Response
Why does the western world hate itself?
It's seems to me that there is a horrid feeling of self loathing in western countries and a hatred for western culture and identity. It seems for example the British will tolerate Pakistanies who live in Britain taking about how great Islamic values are and how British society is evil but when a native Brit talks about the superiority of the west he is castigated. I've also noticed that it seems like there is some agenda to displace the native peoples of Europe in there own land in the name of diversity. This is almost as if westernly descended people hate their own people so much that they want a to eradicate themselves. I think a lot of this gratuitous behavior is the result of decades of propaganda aimed at whites in order to make them hate their own people You don't see this self hatred in other cultures so what explains this