Is he mad? Obama is suing to limit military votes but wants iIlegal aliens to vote?
Guys, guys, guys! LOOK THINGS UP! When I heard that Obama thought the military shouldn't get special treatment, I thought he was crazy! So I looked into it. Ohio allows civilians and military to vote 309 days or so before the elections. Ohio wants to stop civilians from voting early on the last 3 days before the elections, while still allowing the military to do so. Obama is trying to stop that from happening, because he wants the civilians to have the same rights as the military members, and be able to vote right up to the elections. SOMEONE turned it around, and is claiming he doesn't think the military should get special treatment, but all he is really doing is trying to keep the civilians from losing their current rights. Ohio thinks this move will save money, and cut down on fraudulent votes.
Why does Obama want to stop active duty military in Ohio from voting?
Wow. Good attempt at skewing the facts. 1. Ohio has restricted early voting, despite how successful it was in allowing voters to vote without long lines 2. Ohio attempted an exemption for active duty military. We are not talking about mail ballots, just early voting. 3. The Federal government sued that this was discrimination. He does not want to prevent early voting by active duty military. He wants the re-estatement of early voting for ALL citizens. Just more voter suppression by Republicanists. If you can't win, then cheat.
Why is Obama Suing to keep the military from voting in Ohio?
What form of military are we presupposed to have at a consulate in a distant places u . s . to reserve to stand down or up? Does Iran have a army presence at their consulates here? An embassy could have military protection interior its partitions, its seen a component of the residing u . s ., yet a consulates' protection is as lots as a results of fact the host u . s .. you won't be able to easily bypass bombing a distant places u . s . without understanding who's reliable and the place they are on condition that this wasn't a central authority sponsored attack. Ed Klein has a historic previous of arising concerns up that he would not comprehend and actual could no longer comprehend. No criminal recommendations case in point could violate his ethics and threat his license to maintain on with via revealing own information like that.
Why is the Obama campaign suing Ohio over early voting?
Because Ohio had early voting up to the day before election day, and recently eliminated the three days before the election for most but not all voters. "Plaintiffs bring this lawsuit to restore in-person early voting for all Ohioans during the three days prior to Election Day – a right exercised by an estimated 93,000 Ohioans in the last presidential election. Ohio election law, as currently enacted by the State of Ohio and administered by Defendant Ohio Secretary of State, arbitrarily eliminates early voting during the three days prior to Election Day for most Ohio voters, a right previously available to all Ohio voters. This disparate treatment violates 42 U.S.C. § 1983 and the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution and can be rectified by the Court enjoining enforcement of statutory changes that eliminate early in-person voting for most Ohioans during the three days before an election."
Do you agree with Obama suing Ohio to return early voting rights to ALL Ohio residents?
The Obama campaign is suing Ohio to stop implementing changes to the Ohio election law. If the suit is successful, everyone has a Monday COB deadline. If they lose, the military and overseas have a Monday COB deadline, everyone else has a Friday COB deadline. The suit is neither pro nor anti-military. The dispute arose from a mess in the OH election law changes from last year. The case itself is complex, but the short version is that Ohio passed a huge bill that (among other things) was supposed to end IN-PERSON early absentee voting on the Friday before election day. (NOT for regular mailed-in absentee ballots, but for early in-person absentee ballots.) Some voters submitted a resolution to rescind that bill/law. That's on the November ballot. Ohio law says that the bill is therefore suspended and not in effect until the results of that vote are tallied. Meanwhile, someone noticed a mistake in the original bill. Although the bill intended to end early in-person absentee balloting for everyone, the bill failed to redo the language Ohio Code for military and overseas voters. The legislature passed an emergency bill to correct it. A third bill rescinded the first bill but not the second. As a result of this, OH law had 2 different deadlines for Military and overseas voters, the Friday and Monday before election day. The Secretary of State said that that the later deadline should apply, so military and overseas voters have a Monday close of business deadline. The Obama campaign said that was a mess, and sued to stop the state from implementing any changes to the election laws. One of the reasons is that treating the 2 groups differently is a violation of the Equal Protection Clause. The Obama side says that there's no reason that the two groups should get different treatment. (1. military plus overseas, and 2. everyone else. Note that the 1st group of affected voters also includes people living overseas who aren't in the military. ) AMVETS and other military groups don't want a precedent set that ever says that the military can't get different treatment.
Liberals: Why is Obama trying to deny military people the right to vote in Ohio?
Before Obama was elected President he went to see Bill and Hillary for some campaign advice, at their spacious home. After drinking several glasses of iced tea, he asked Bill Clinton. if he could use his personal bathroom. When he entered Clinton's private toilet, he was astonished to see that Clinton had a solid gold urinal! Wow! That afternoon, Obama told his wife, Michelle, about the urinal. "Just think,' he said, 'when I am President, I too could have a gold urinal!" Later, when Michelle had lunch with Hillary, she told Hillary how impressed Obama had been at his discovery of the fact that, in his private bathroom, Bill had a gold urinal. That evening, when Bill and Hillary were getting ready for bed, Hillary smiled and said to Bill: "I found out who pissed in your saxophone."
The question is false on its face. Obama never voted for the Iraq war for one simple reason. The Iraq Resolution, where Congress voted to authorized Bush to use force to deal with Iraq, happened on October 2002. It passed the House by a vote of 297 to 133, and the Senate by a vote of 48 to 29. This vote effectively began the Iraq War and led to all the disasters that followed.At the time, Obama was serving in the Illinois state senate, where he was from 1997 to 2004. He didn’t become a member of the US Senate until 2005. In short, he COULDN’T HAVE voted for the Iraq war because he was neither a Representative nor a Senator at the time. And when the resolution was announced, Obama was at a protest where he publicly denounced the war was unjust and stupid.Here’s the full text of his speech:“Now let me be clear – I suffer no illusions about Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal man. A ruthless man. A man who butchers his own people to secure his own power. He has repeatedly defied UN resolutions, thwarted UN inspection teams, developed chemical and biological weapons, and coveted nuclear capacity. He’s a bad guy. The world, and the Iraqi people, would be better off without him.“But I also know that Saddam poses no imminent and direct threat to the United States, or to his neighbors, that the Iraqi economy is in shambles, that the Iraqi military a fraction of its former strength, and that in concert with the international community he can be contained until, in the way of all petty dictators, he falls away into the dustbin of history. I know that even a successful war against Iraq will require a US occupation of undetermined length, at undetermined cost, with undetermined consequences. I know that an invasion of Iraq without a clear rationale and without strong international support will only fan the flames of the Middle East, and encourage the worst, rather than best, impulses of the Arab world, and strengthen the recruitment arm of Al Qaeda. I am not opposed to all wars. I’m opposed to dumb wars.”Clear enough? Not only did he not vote for the war, his reasons were pretty clear.Obama's War Stance, Revisited - FactCheck.org
Why is Mitt Romney denying voting rights to almost a million Ohio vets?
To the people who think this isn't true, yes, Shovel of ..., I am quite aware of the fact that they are not active duty, which is why I asked the question. The fact that they are not active duty means they are being denied the right to vote in the weekend before the election just as are all other Ohioans. Mitt Romney wants Obama's suit to fail and is pretending he's trying to deny the vote to active duty military, when what he is really doing is trying to extend it to the vets and all the rest of the state instead of letting the state take them away from all of them. ABW, what would you like? A list of the number of veterans, guard members, and reservists in Ohio? An explanation of the Ohio bill that denies them the right to vote on the weekend before the election, along with all the other people in the state? I really don't see why you would need either of those, but here: an article form last year estimating the number of vets in Ohio. http://www.wtrf.com/sto
Obama sues over voting ID laws, yet they sure to block military vote in OH. WTF?
Are you interested in the truth of the matter? From USA TODAY, I believe today: By Lori Robertson, FactCheck.org "Mitt Romney wrongly suggests the Obama campaign is trying to "undermine" the voting rights of military members through a lawsuit filed in Ohio. The suit seeks to block state legislation that limited early voting times for nonmilitary members; it doesn't seek to impose restrictions on service members." "Some voters may well appreciate a discussion of the merits and ramifications of an equal protection legal argument. But what they got from the Romney campaign is a falsehood." http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/st... —————————————————————————————————————— EDIT From the Washington Post article you posted: " ... but both Romney and Biber misrepresented the true language and intent of the lawsuit. The Pinocchio Test Romney’s statement suggests that the president is undermining the voting rights of Ohio service members. But the lawsuit in question would not change the deadline one way or another for military voters. It simply requests an order for the state to extend its civilian deadline. The lawsuit doesn’t describe the military privilege as unconstitutional or arbitrary, which is what Romney and Biber suggested. Instead it uses that argument against the separate deadline for civilian voters, in what the Obama campaigns appears to believe is an attempt to supress African-American turnout. Overall, the facts show obvious contradictions to the statements from Romney and Biber, no matter how carefully they were worded. The Romney campaign earns three Pinocchios. Three Pinocchios" ——————————————————————————————————————
The Washington Post's Dana Milbank wrote today (Oct 29 2014) that they've totally reversed field, and sidelined the case, hoping that we'll all forget about it. Instead of an overreaching dictator, now he's being cast as a feckless incompetent who can't use the power he has legitimately (stop ISIS, stop ebola, stop people from jumping the fence, stop people coming across the border, stop Iran, stop Russia, stop Syria). It's just in time before the election - - for throwing doo-doo up against the electorate's TV screens to see if they can at least, get the smell to stick.