ATHEISTS: Why do I always hear you say "obvious troll is obvious?" What does this mean?
Obvious troll is obvious.
Is atheism simply an admission of the obvious?
whats obvious that they believe that the universe was established from nothing out of nothing into something. sounds so logical. problem with atheists is most try to take this particular science as fact end of discussion and thats not how science works. its always open for debate and revision. simply put no one knows how it all came intro being. science has theories religion has faith. the likley hood of it all happening by chance is a billion times more unlikely than if a dictionary was formed from a explosion at a printing company. its logically impossible to think it was all chance. to say there isnt even the possibility for a deity is just plan ignorance and arrogance on anyone's part. we as human beings cannot make claims like that and say its fact cause we just dont know. you cant practice good science with a closed mind like that. more scientists are theistic in the sense they are open for the possibility of a god but dont necessarily believe one exists. the only obvious thing is that we are creatures of destruction and we are ignorant
If atheists think that there are no gods because of the obvious lack of evidence of their existence and because of the obvious evidence against gods, then why is 83% of the world religious?
See this Greek movie Dogtooth (2009)In which a married couple and their children, live in a large isolated property and the children have never been on the other side of it .They are taught different meanings for everyday words. For example, they are told that a "zombie" is "a small yellow flower," and that "sea" is a leather chair with wooden arms.Similar way in this world children are taught about god when their minds are like plasticine balls. They can be shaped the way parents like it.It is such a stage that a 1-2 year old will jump off the ledge if you ask him to do so, because he doesn't know what will happen afterwards.A child's mind is shaped to believe in god since childhood without giving him any evidence of his existence. It is a stage where the child does not have the ability to reason and ask for proof, it will become the way you mold it.Why do parents do it? - It's because their parents (grandparents of the child) had molded their children's mind since their childhood to believe in god. And this has been happening since the time religion was born.It is very difficult to break the chain since everyone's minds are molded to believe in god, that is why you have majority of people believing in it without evidence.
ATHEISTS, "Obvious Poe is obvious" what does this mean?
*Holds up mirror*
As an atheist, what do you base your values on?
Atheists find their ethics, principles and values via logical, rational, secular reasoning.This is almost the same way theists do it, with the exception that theists have one irrational process intermingled with the process of determining their values. Theists have an ancient holy book which they consult and then decide whether the Bronze Age values taught in this book is acceptable, whether they want to ignore it, or whether they want to use it to justify their own values.Theists have rejected some of the values in their holy book out of hand right from the start, for example the instruction to kill your children if they do not listen to you, the instruction to kill a virgin if she is raped and she does not scream load enough while being raped and the advice to give all your possessions away and to follow Jesus instead.Theists have accepted some of the values in their holy book for a long time and they have used their holy book to justify it, but they have in the meantime agreed that these immoral values are not acceptable in a more modern society, for example slavery, sex slavery, rape and misogyny.Theist are today still accepting some of the values in their ancient holy book, and they still use it to justify their own values, for example homophobia. However, more and more of them are starting to agree that these deeply immoral values have no place in our modern society, so more and more of them are starting to support the cause for LGBTQ equality.Atheist values (with exceptions) tend not to include victimless "sins", like homophobia and other obsessions with what consenting adults do while they are naked.
Why is it not so obvious to atheist scientists that the universe could not have created itself?
“Why is it not so obvious to atheist scientists that the universe could not have created itself?”When considering time as an omnipresent linear stage on which the act called ‘universe’ unfolds itself, it seems obvious that the universe can not create itself. Something can not arise from nothing. Or so it seems.Since Einstein we know better. Time is not a static linear background. Time is not a stage but an actor in the play. Creating the universe means creating time.But what does this mean, “creating time”? The word “creating” assumes a temporal ordering, it assumes time to be present as a kind of background. But to assume time to be present when creating time leads to circular reasoning.Does this make your head spin? Are some ‘obvious’ conclusions perhaps a wee bit less obvious by now?Good!Now throw quantum physics in the mix. Quantum physics tells us that where there is a path, it must be taken. Meaning that every path possible contributes to the total outcome. Could it therefore be that a path ‘no universe’ and a path ‘universe’ both contribute to what we refer to as physical reality? Or is this ‘obviously’ impossible?Once it seemed ‘obvious’ Earth is flat. Now we know better…