How do Vegans and Vegetarians feel when they see Tigers ripping apart the Hyenas with their teeth?
You have to laugh sometimes, like when a hand-wringing vegans are proud of themselves for skipping the fish and having lettuce and tofu for lunch instead in a California bistro, while several billion fish just died outside in King Harbor. Their “sacrifice” didn’t help these billions of fish one iota. Nor will their concern for baby seals be heard by the killer whales that call them lunch. The only thing you can guarantee for every animal that a vegan doesn’t eat is that animal will die, and those that aren’t killed for human consumption will die far uglier deaths by predation, disease, parasites and other horrible fates.Billions of dead fish washed up at King Harbor, US
Vegetarians and Vegans: Would you date a hunter?
EDIT: I wanted to get a few answers before I put my opinion, so I would not get any bias answers. I am a vegetarian; I eat eggs and drink milk (but cage free and organic). I am currently dating a hunter, and have been for almost 6 years. We have a great relationship and have the upmost respect for each other and our decisions. He respects my choice to not eat meat, and actually thinks it is pretty awesome that I stand up for what I believe in such a drastic way. I respect him as a hunter because he is respectful to the planet and the animals. (ex: He does not use cheats like salt licks and fake deer to lure the deer in, and he actually eats the animals he kills.) He is the nicest guy I have ever known, loves animals, and has a huge heart. =)
Do vegetarians go deer hunting?
Well, Farmer Jed, it all depends on why you've chosen to cut meat from your diet, and if you're hunting alone or with omnivorous friends. Me, I went vegan to help manage an incurable disability I got in the Marine Corps. And holy crap, it actually works!! I'm never going back to meat, dairy, or eggs, but I will be snagging a hunting license this year and I'll give whatever I kill to friends and family. I think that hunting animals to provide meat is a much more humane, tasty, and healthy way than grabbing some meat slab at the grocery store. These animals have had a rich and full life, aren't pumped with antibiotics, don't live a stressed life (makes the meat taste worse...that's why you don't typically eat deer hit with a car: the adrenaline pumping in its veins makes the meat taste foul), and are just tastier in general. The best meat I've had always comes from wild caught fish or farm-raised cattle. Am I going to taste a bit? Sure, just a bite. My health isn't something I want to compromise, but surprisingly, I've actually begun to hate the scent of meat. I had a bite of pheasant (my guy went pheasant hunting with his grandpa) and while part of me appreciated some of the flavors, the meat itself came off as greasy and kind of rotten. I'm probably going to get a million thumbs down from this comment.
Gentlemen do you think vegans and vegetarians may be detached from reality?
Yes, as a woman you are completely out of touch with REALITY. Because if MEN didn't stock all the grocery shelves in the world, you wouldn't have any choice but to hunt for food. You're not going to complain when he brings home a rabbit to eat ( ungrateful women of today) ... and you sure as hell aren't going to STOP eating to start planting seeds and wait MONTHS -- and hope for the weather to be right -- to feed your fat @ss. The only reason people are "vegan" and "vegetarians" is because they don't' know what it's like to go hungry. Like REAL hunger. Like live-through-a-WAR hunger. Starving African children are not "vegan" and you will never hear a single starving child pretend it is "lactose intolerant" either.
As a vegetarian/vegan, what is your opinion on hunting animals because of animal-overpopulation?
My first thought is that this is ultimately an empirical question: do the populations of certain species grow to a point where more harm will be incurred if they are not hunted? This is a question deserving of research and data, and it is difficult for me to believe that there is much research and data out there that hasn’t been tainted by the biases of the hunting industry.Upon further consideration, it really doesn’t matter what research into the above area yields, because the question itself is flawed and merely begs another question. Implicit in the question is the assumption that “overpopulation,” as it is used, can only refer to nonhuman species “encroaching” on human society/civilization. I challenge this, and submit that, from a bird’s eye view, human population growth causes more harm than that of any other species. We confine wild nonhumans to ever-shrinking areas of unmolested land and then scratch our heads (and grab our guns) when their populations began to “push back” on ours. While I understand that there are ethical complications that arise when the border between humans and nonhumans is blurred, if we really value nonviolence, we humans must rethink our extraordinary and unsustainable growth, and really question whether our domineering tendencies toward nature and other species is at all justified. The way I see it, we are the problem. The good news: we can be the solution.
Do vegetarians and vegans think hunting/fishing is bad?
I got into an argue with a vegetarian/vegan girl who was furious that I fish and go along hunting with my dad. My dad's friend got an elk we had a roast with it and it is so good. Lets see we go bird hunting and elk hunting....moose hunting when in Alaska and once bear hunting. We fish for many different types of salmon we bonk it in the head with a rock to kill it as quickly as possible and my dad found a technique on cutting their gills so they bleed out fast. For halibut we stab them with a hook thing to lift them onto the boat and if they are too big and are struggling alot we shoot them in the head....this sounds mean but is commonly done by Alaskan halibut fishers. Would you argue/hate me based on this if we have a rule you shoot it you eat for hunting and you keep it you eat it for fishing.
Do you think some vegans and vegetarians are extremely vocal about their beliefs to the point that they offend?
As someone who holds several "alternative" viewpoints I tend to stick out and after years of interacting with people in the "mainstream" I have come to several conclusions.People will excuse the behavior of assholes in their own group, but become upset when another group also has assholes. If you put a group of any size in a room there are bound to be a few mean people, Vegans are no different. There are lots of people with typical diets that are mean, nasty, disrespectful, and and antagonistic to vegans simply because they exist. I run into this all the time simply because a make a small request of a server like not putting cheese on a salad.Based on my first point it should not surprise you that some Vegans use "abusive terms" just as it doesn't surprise me when every 8th person I have dinner with decides to talk in graphic detail about hunting while I am trying to eat. Every group has inconsiderate assholes in it. The problem is painting everyone with the same brush which you are doing in your question.Peta is not representative of all Vegans, not even most of them. They have a following, particularly in California, but thats it. I have met many vegans who hate Peta more than omnivores do! This is because their behavior perpetuates the Vegan stereotype which for most people is not accurate. Lets take a more extreme view than veganism...say pro-life (anti-abortion). Not every person who thinks abortion is wrong is parked out front of a clinic calling pregnant woman "baby killers" and trying to blow up the doctor's home. Certainly those people are out there, but many more simply struggle with the concept in their own head or community. That doesn't make them bad people and it doesn't put them in the same camp as the more extreme people with the same views. You might think its wrong, but to paint all people the same is irresponsible. So I think the question really is if you are offended by extremist vegans/vegetarians why do you associate with them? I know I am not about to go places with large concentrations of hunters, or religious people, or people who support wars, and other groups who's views I fundamentally disagree with. Why do you expose yourself to this, especially when you are clearly not willing to explore those views with an open mind, which is totally okay by the way! At the same time don't feed the beast by giving a forum to those who will only serve to perpetuate the abuse cycle.
Vegetarian & Vegan Section: Drawing in the Weirdos...?
I really appreciate all answers thus far. This question doesn't necessarily pertain to obvious trolls (I couldn't care less about fathoming their semi-retarded reasons for being here and try to minimize all interactions with them). Neither does it question an animal eaters' right or privilege to interact on this section. What is fascinating is that they (not the trolls, just people whose philosophy is stubbornly incompatible with veg*nism) are drawn here in the first place. On a deeper level, could it be that they are here seeking an absolution of sorts via conversations with "friendly" veg*ns? Or seeking to assure themselves that they aren't all that they are accused of being by vindicating veg*ns? To put it simply, what is the itch they hope to soothe? I mean, exchanging knowledge is all well and good, but that's just scratching the surface. There just appears to be something more... pathological. And I don't think I'm all that far off-
Vegans: What is your opinion on hunting?
I am vegan and have been for many, many years. I'm not opposed to eating meat, per se. I'm vegan because I oppose domestication, captivity, cruelty, and factory farming. (See link: http://www.globalnational.com/story.html... ) (I wish all living things, from aardvark to zebra, lived the autonomous lives nature and evolution intended for them.) I often say that if I went out and ethically killed and ate a wild animal, my conscience would be clear [since ethical hunting doesn't involve domestication, captivity, (long-lasting) cruelty, nor factory farming]. So, I'm not opposed to ethical hunting of truly wild animals (no canned hunts, of course). That said, since I am so healthy without the use of any animal products whatsoever, I can't think of a good reason why I would go out and hunt and kill a wild animal. (Also keep in mind that most hunters pervert the natural order of things, in hunting the biggest and healthiest specimens, while natural predators tend to cleanse the flock/herd/etc. of the weak and the ill.) Just my two cents since I am one of the few vegans to answer.