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Do Meat Eaters Realize That Without Vegans Plants Would Overpopulate

Debate: Vegetarian vs Meat Eaters?

hello,
in my class we are going to have a debate on what is better: vegetables or meat
and the teacher has divided the class in two groups
one that supports vegetables
and one that goes against it (meat eaters)
i have been put in the one that support vegetarians
so i need some ideas for how vegetables are better than meat
thnx

PS; i my self LOVEEE meat which is why i need help

Can lab-grown meat solve the overpopulation problem?

I suppose that shifting to vegetarianism will not be an option. I am not vegetarian, and I am used to eat meat and fish. But from the moral point of view vegetarianism is a step up.By using the lab knowledge, it will be easier to create plants that are more plenty of what needed by the human organism that trying to create meat in the lab. I thought a lot of times how would it be to create meat in the lab, for moral reasons.It must be said that from the energy point of view, transforming the energy of the Sun and water into plants, and transforming those plants with the help of animals into meat it is surely a waste of energy.So in case of over population, the direct path supported with genetic knowledge and the capability to modify plants should be the easiest and safer way to go.

If everyone was vegan would animals overpopulate?

This is one of the most common misconceptions about vegatarianism/veganism. The only reason we have so many farm animals is because we put massive effort into breeding them. Almost all of the roughly 10 billion animals that we kill for food every year in the USA are the result of artificial insemination. If I could wave a magic wand and turn the entire population of America into vegans overnight then yes there would be about 10 billion extra animals and we'd have to figure out what to do with them. In the real world though this is never going to happen. If the world turns vegan then it'll happen slowly over time. Chickens are killed between 6-14 weeks old. Pigs are usually killed at 3-6 months of age. Beef cattle at 1-2 years.  If we set the ridiculously optimistic goal of eliminating all worldwide meat eating over a period of two years we'd just have to stop the massive breeding program. The remaining farm animals would be eaten within a year or two at most. In reality veganism is on the rise but even with its current growth rate we're not anywhere near that trajectory. You can calm your fears of rogue herds of cows taking over the suburban landscape.

If animals were not meant to be eaten. How come they taste so good? And contain important neutrants?

They are meant to be eaten. Read Leviticus Chap. 11. These were the laws given to Moses on what animals to eat and what not to eat. Then in The New Test. Acts chap. 10 God sent down a sheet full of animals and told Peter to rise, kill, and eat. Peter was afraid to because there were what was considered unclean in the OT, were also in there. But God spoke the words 3 times. As long as we ask The Lord to Bless the food which we eat, it is clean and will not make us sick. Amen

Meat eaters, how do you justify eating meat? I just don't like eating other animals because you are killing them, and they want to live.?

1. all meat eaters are saying they don't have to justify their diet and then go ahead and try to justify it.
2. apparently if we stopped eating animals, their numbers will grow uncontrollably and over populate the world. Riiiight cause cows generally love being perpetually pregnant and produce as many babies that get turned into "veal" right?
3. a lady asked how vegetarians justify the suffering they cause when wildlife etc is killed in order to grow vegetable produce. The lady needs to do some research. More vegetation is needed so she can eat a cow. If we just ate the vegetation directly it would be much more efficient.
All in all, these comments are good evidence that people will grasp at straws to justify murder.

Why does everyone think that human overpopulation is the problem and not what humans consume (e.g. eating meat instead of plants)?

Firstly, because more humans means more consumption than fewer humans, even if everybody consumes only the bare caloric minimum for life, under any plausible scenario.Secondly, because lots of land is completely unsuitable for productive agriculture no matter what, so positing that everybody stops eating meat tomorrow doesn’t actually help in the first place (can’t grow much corn in the Rockies, etc., etc.). There are a whole lot of weird economic incentives driving Western overconsumption of meat, but the fact that there is some consumption of meat isn’t in-and-of itself a problem. This is doubly-true if you don’t care for artificial vitamins; people need nutrients that are not generally available from an all-plant diet, particularly if you’re limited to locally-available produce.In the end, of course, neither of these are actually relevant, because the actual problem isn’t human overpopulation or human overconsumption, it’s the incredibly poor distribution of existing resources. Going by production figures alone, we could quite trivially feed everybody on the planet and probably several billion more if we could just optimize the distribution system better.

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