US Navy SEALs Training?
You will go to Static and HALO Training after BUD/S, they just started putting that as part of the pipeline like this a little over a year ago. It is in San Diego, they do one week of Static and then 3 weeks of Free Fall to include Combat Equipment, O2, Night Jumps, etc...They used to be on a waiting list for the Army Free Fall Course, it got to silly so they pushed to get there own. The Army School is very good, they both have advantages but the Army Airborne School was a COMPLETE waste of time at 3 weeks and a bit of a joke after going thru BUD/S, there was never a wait time for that school. Basically once you get thru BUD/S you will have just about another 6 months of Operator Training between SQT, SERE and Free Fall School that are all in the direct pipeline now. As far as the USMC getting in on the Navy School, the USAF and EOD already are, I do not see why the USMC would not be allowed to go as well, the school had to get the ok from SOCOM and MARSOC is underneath it now so I imagine it would be a no brainer to just have them bid into it. Edit-Jeeper, your wrong on that one, they no longer go to the Army Course and the USAF has been sending guys-PJ and CCT's, to the San Diego course since at least 05' that I know about, they still go to the Army one but they just want billets and the Army course is for the ENTIRE Military and hence does not always have the number of slots that are needed. Edit-Trident, the static is a week long and done before the Free Fall Course and that is 3 weeks, USAF and EOD both go to the school.
How long is the Air Force PJ service?
When I was in the Air Force, the 'pipeline' for Pararescue was said to be about 18 months, if that's what you're asking.If you're asking how long you have to commit if you'd like to become a Pararescue Journeyman, the minimum enlistment was six years given the year and a half of training that it took.
Which unit has the largest washout rate during training: the Navy SEALs, Green Berets or Delta Force?
I would go with either Delta Force or Green Berets.The Navy SEALs are Tier 2 units with the exception of DEVGRU (SEAL Team Six). Navy SEAL dropout rate is around 80–85% and one can directly apply to become a SEAL (military service prior is not required).The Green Berets are an elite intelligence-gathering unit. They are a Tier 1 unit which usually recruits already seasoned veterans of war. The selection process and training is rigorous. I would say that Green Berets are probably the most intelligent/educated of US spec ops units with the exception of maybe the CIA’s Special Activities Division (SAD) and within that the paramilitary Special Operations Group (SOG).Delta Force is also an elite unit however, they seem to not have any particular role. DEVGRU specialises in amphibious operations and the Green Berets specialise in intelligence-gathering. I assume that Delta Force handles most land-based spec ops operations, they probably handle most counter-terrorism operations. However, as was shown by the raid in Abbottabad counter-terrorism is often handled by DEVRGU or even regular SEAL teams just like the film Lone Survivor portrays. Delta Force is a very small unit though, allegedly only a mere 250–300 men in Delta are described as operators who take part in direct combat operations. DEVGRU has approximately 1,342 operators and the Green Berets has approximately 5, 500 active duty operators and 1,000 National Guard operators.So In conclusion I would say that Delta Force is the most elite unit as they have the least number of operators. This means they likely have the highest washout rate.
During CCT or Pararescue training do you go from one class to the other?
Depends on slots. The PJ pipeline depends on how the schools are aligned and scheduled. Most PJ trainees PCS very early in the pipeline to Kirtland AFB, NM. They will have to leave for schools but their families can live there while they are gone. With CCT, there is no authorized PCS to Hurlburt until AST. That comes about a year into the training. CCT and PJ try to get schools back to back without much break but again, it's not always possible. It depends on class dates, slots for those class dates etc. You can expect some wait time/holding time for most schools, esp. basic airborne and dive. Usually trainees will be in holding at that school, however. As for seeing your wife .. you'll be able to see her just not that often. And even when she moves to be with you, you'll be studying or training so while you'll live together you'll still be quite busy.
Should i be a CCT or a PJ?
Depends on what interests you. Do you want to set up airfields, direct air traffic in combat zones and call in air strikes? Then look at CCT. Do you want to rescue downed pilots and aircrew and any other US personnel that are in hostile and denied areas, rescue mountain climbers and deep see fishermen, earthquake victims and flood victims, train in emergency trauma care and battlefield medicine? Then look at PJ. There is no "easier." Both are challenging careers that require 100% dedication. PJs and CCTs work together frequently within Special Tactics so while the training pipelines may be different, standards of performance and ability are somewhat on par. Both PJs and CCTs are expected to hold their own in small teams or as individuals attached to other Special Operations Forces. Both must be able to adapt to other SOFs TTPs and maintain high enough standards so that they can run with anyone. Asking which sees more "action" lacks a realistic view. Both are Special Operations careers, both have a combat mission. Both careers have lost incredibly good men to this current war. It's not a video game. Both are physically and academically challenging. PJs must learn trauma medicine far above the standards of any civilian Paramedic in less than 1/4 of the time it would take for a civilian to get his EMT-P. Then they must be able to apply this knowledge in high stress situations. CCTs must learn to become certified Air Traffic Controllers and again, apply this knowledge in high stress situations. Understand that with CCT and PJ you don't just choose the career, it also chooses you and if you don't have what it takes .. you won't make it through the training. Pararescue has 90% attrition rate, CCT is close behind at 75%. Neither of these are forgiving training pipelines .. and it only gets harder once you're actually qualified as a PJ or CCT.
What is the main difference between PJ's and CCT's?
1234, you need to do A LOT more research. PJs are NOT combat medics. This is an entirely different job with an entirely different focus. The first and primary mission of a PJ is not to provide medical aid .. it is personnel recovery. PJs are trained in advanced trauma care so that they can begin treatment for those injured or wounded while in transport to a safe area. Having this ability is simply another tool in the tool box to help keep the individual(s) alive ... it is not the primary focus. To Bucky, if you want to be a PJ .. then you really need to focus on that goal. Choosing PJ and CCT is just going to leave you sitting out and waiting on your slot with Security Forces or maybe if you're lucky TACP. Both CCT and PJs will be attached to other Special Operations Forces throughout their careers. Army SF, Rangers, SEALs, and other tier 1 assets. As for what each one does as their primary mission read through this site: http://www.specialtactics.com/ http://www.specialtactics.com/overview.shtml Pararescue Careerfield http://www.specialtactics.com/pjdescription.shtml Combat Control Careerfield http://www.specialtactics.com/cctdescription.shtml These are not jobs to enter into lightly. They take a lot of heart, sacrifice, dedication, training and discipline. You are not only required to be the expert within your own mission directives but you're also required to have the ability to adjust and adapt to other Special Operations Forces mission directives when attached to them. They want you to bring your expertise and act as a functional member of the team .. so you have to know your stuff.
Becoming an Air Force PJ or SERE?
PJ and SERE careers are night and day. You may want to decide which you want to do. PJs are Special Operations, the training pipeline is very intense and incredibly long. If you make it through indoc and the pipeline, you will spend most of your time away from home, TDY or deployed. SERE is a support career, it has no operational role. The pipeline isn't that intense due to that (though you do need to be in fairly good physical condition) and you will spend most of your career at Fairchild AFB. If you wish to become a PJ, you will need to take the PJ/CCT PAST and secure a GTEP (guaranteed contract) before leaving for BMT. If you do not have this contract, you will not be able to try out for Pararescue. We no longer take volunteers during basic training. SERE also has its own PAST, though the standards are much lower than the PJ/CCT PAST. Same thing applies, however, you need to get a GTEP for it if you go that route. You need to do more research. For Pararescue go to www.specialtactics.com For SERE go to www.gosere.com
How long is the Combat control indoc coarse?
CCT used to attend Pararescue Indoc which is 10.5 weeks. They no longer attend our indoc course and now have a 10 day orientation course for those that would like to try out. Since CCT loses most of their people in the middle of the pipeline, they felt it wasn't necessary to have such a long indoc process before the pipeline even starts. Pararescue does spend more time in the water than CCT due to our mission. It requires us to have the capabilities to rescue those at sea or in fresh water. We must also maintain our combat diver qualifications as well. CCT does attend dive school and so must be competent and proficient in the water as well but their focus on swimming comes later in their pipeline as they prepare for dive school. Also, it's just PJ .. not "pee jay," that's simply the phonetic spelling.
Air Force PJ vs Recon Marine? Which one is harder?
I am joining the Air Force and I scored well enough to go PJ so I took it, but my sister boyfriend is joining the Marines and is going Recon Marines.. He seems to think that Recon is harder than PJ training. I told him that they are both hard and respected, but he seems to think not!! Not to sound blunt, I have the up most respect for all the branches and Recon Marines are Bad ***, but I'm pretty sure PJ training is harder..