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Is This Considered Loitering

Is it considered loitering to bar hop but not order drinks?

If I was at a crowded bar after bar hopping and already drinking at the other bars and if I went to the other bars on the same street and just got some water, would that be weird? That’s if I am already hammered and buzzed as it is and I don’t want anymore drinks but just get water to sober up? Will it be weird to do that and still be considered loitering?

What is considered loitering?

Loitering in legal terms is defined as a person or persons lingering in a public place or business when they have no reasonable purpose to do so. It is typically enforced to avoid aggressive begging, soliciting prostitution, drug deals, blocking a business, public intoxication or creating a nuisance to the public.

If you are doing none of these, then you'd typically be fine, especially if you're just out in nature as long as it isn't private property or a park that closes at certain hours. However, the police do reserve the right to request you to leave (like I said though, if nothing is suspicious, they probably won't) and refusing to do so could result in a loitering citation/ticket.

Is it considered loitering to sit on a bench?

"is it considered loitering to sit on a bench?" It is by the management of that establishment. In this case, a rule, rather than a law. He who owns the property makes the rules. (Which, admittedly seems fairer once you have your own.)

"first off, do we actually have to listen to them?" Yep. They're the agents of the owners of the property. As long as they are telling you the rules, your choices are to do it or leave.

"it's not loitering to sit on a bench for less that 2 minutes is it?" It could be. In this county, for example, it's illegal to occupy a public park between eleven pm and five am, unless you have a camping permit. And that's even public property.

How long is considered loitering (in front of a CVS)?

I'm meeting up with someone from craigslist in front of a CVS tomorrow, if he shows up late or something and I have to wait around, would that be considered loitering? basically, how long is the unwritten line where "just standing around" becomes "loitering?"

Is it considered loitering to sit at a table outside of a coffee place?

Let’s say my friend and I wanted to take a breather and just rest on a bench or at a table and if it’s a table at starbucks where customers sit outside, would it be loitering if we just sat there and talked without going inside starbucks to buy anything? If someone who worked in there saw us just sitting there, would he/she say something?

I remember one time I sat at a different starbucks in the city or a restaurant table outside to chill for a second and took a breather and the guy who worked there came out and just asked if he could get me anything because he didn’t want me to just sit there outside at the table and not buy anything. I don’t think there should be anything wrong with just chilling though and taking a rest for a second.

Is it considered loitering to sit in a bank parking lot for 10 mins during Business hours?10 pts(Michigan law?)?

Monday was pretty rough day for me. I dont have a car at the moment but am hopefully getting one soon. I had a job interview and was trying to walk there and got lost. I was not able to make it. I tried googling the directions but they were unclear. At that point my feet were throbbing from my dress shoes, I could barely walk. I take them off to make sure my feet werent too injured. They were blistered and swollen pretty bad. I put my shoes back on cuz I felt gross lol and sit over in a nearby bank parking lot 8 feet off to the side of the main entrance on the sidewalk.

Therefore I was not in anyone's way, so they could get into the entrance. I start trying to text a friend and take a break to get my feet a rest. This one employee comes out an asks if im okay " I explain to her its been a bad day and my feet are swollen so im just taking a break for a few" and she just goes back inside.
Then 10 mins later right when im about to get up, this other lady comes out to yell at me exclaiming " You need to leave we cant have you be loitering out here!" seriously? I was not bothering anyone. I didn't even talk to anyone or ask anyone for anything.
I looked up the law and the only thing it said in regards to loitering is it usually only illegal if im trying to prostitute, deal drugs, beg, if im blocking the entrance, or if im harassing people around me. or if it was after hours and I was sitting in the lot. I was wearing dress clothes and was on my phone, clearly distressed.

Is it considered loitering if you visit a university to meet people while you're not a student there?

I never considered it to be loitering as I frequented the MUB (Memorial Union Building) at the University of New Hampshire. My mother was attending the university and we were carpooling. I would drop her off, and get my sisters and brother where they needed to be, then pick her up. We would frequent the bowling alley or get pizza while she was studying. Mom and I both graduated in 1974. She graduated Magna Cum Laud with dual major in Sociology and Psychology. Our family was on the cover of UNH magazine in 1970/71.

Why is loitering considered a crime in various jurisdictions?

Say you have a nice little restaurant married couples and clean cut people come for your homemade chili and chicken turnips and pies ok… if ho bos are sleeping around your door way your clients will feel ill at ease. It maybe sad but true if enough homeless hang around the diners will stop coming. The homeless will ask for money cigs or food some people feel a little threatened by this. Or what about you own a convience store the parking lot is pretty big country teenagers bring souped up car and drink hooche and race their engines you dont like it some mothers are worried soneone is going to get run over. I used rednecks as an example it could be any ethnic group of boys ok….so you and other business leaders ask the authorities to have loitering laws.

Loitering VS sitting in a restaurant?

Suppose I went to an Italian restaurant (or whatever).

I saw a person sitting in the chair with a table.

I arrested him because I thought he was loitering, "just because I saw him sit on the chair". Turns out later, he was waiting for his food to come to him and the loitering charge against him was dropped.

Is my arrest justified or did I make an illegal arrest,

case (a)
normal case
case (b)
if the restaurant is under police crowd watch

Please answer the question for both senerios.

Is vagrancy considered a crime?

In the UK you have to go back to the times of the Napoleonic Wars with the French. It’s no accident that the Vagrancy Act came out in 1824.Troops were returning from the war traumatised and maimed. Most of the normal constraints placed on what we now call the Id by the super ego had been stripped away by the horrors they say saw and had to commit to stay alive.There were few jobs for disabled soldiers and sailors and so they had to resort to begging. Often they would expose their gruesome wounds to try to elicit sympathy from the public and get a higher donation. The number of beggars on the street grew to unacceptable numbers.Some of the soldiers suffering from what we now call PTSD or having head injuries developed high sexual urges. (I’m told be those who know such things that this isn’t unusual). The number of men exposing themselves to the genteel ladies of the age rose significantly.Of course these men had nowhere to sleep and so became rough sleepers.The government of the time decided it had to do something and set up a number of hostels where men could get a bed for the night. They also passed the law which:Required the homeless person to make his way to the nearest reception centre on being told do do so by a constable.Made begging and exposing your injuries for that purpose an offenceMade indecent exposure of a male penis an offence if done with the intention to insult a lady. In effect the penis had to be erect to prove the offence.It also made certain categories of offenders:If you offended once you were specified as a rogueTwice and you were classified as a vagabondAny more and you were an incorrigible rogue.Penalties and restrictions increased as you graduated up the ladder.

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