Is it hypocritical that Liberals who want to give illegal immigrants a free pass into America on humanitarian grounds can only come up with "picking fruit and other things Americans don't want to do" when asked what they would contribute?
No, hypocritical wouldn't be the correct word. Liberals don’t want to give illegals a free pass on humanitarian grounds. That would be refugee status and has its own set of laws and regulations. It often seems that people don’t think we have immigration laws and that anyone can walk in now, but we’ve had laws for years, for legal immigrant, illegal immigrants and people here on visas which would cover migrant labor, and people working in fish canneries and chicken industries. Of course those are limited, and often only the well connected get the workers. Not exactly giving the others a chance in a free market. No wonder they want to keep it that way.Many of the proposed laws are already on the books, illegals are already being deported and have been for decades. As to what else they contribute? They live in places we wouldn’t put Americans, because Americans can complain, they will work in conditions Americans would not put up with, because they can’t complain without being deported. They pay taxes on their incomes, the IRS will come down on the employers if they don’t withhold taxes from their employees.Their money stays in this country and supports the small businesses that thrive where the big corporations won’t go. Some goes home to help families keep from going hungry. That’s humanitarian.We have a newer problem with the ones who were brought here as children and now are in limbo, we have had rules in place about that, they have to be in school or served in the military, no criminal record and they’ve been turned into a political football by Trump’s overturning of DACA.Trump’s followers often don’t seem to know exactly what it is they’re protesting about when it comes to immigration. They don’t know that there are rules, and they seem to believe that Democrats want open borders which would require changes to the present system. I’ve never met one who wants criminals to be allowed to enter or stay. They are not all murderers, rapists and drug dealers.
How do liberals justify giving illegal immigrants...?
well raymond that is a very utopian way of thinking, many of the countries the illegals come from DO NOT offer the same hospitality to those in their country illegal. somwhere there is a american born child of american parents going hungry to night because there is an illegal immigrant in his or her father's job.
Illegal immigrants get $2,700/yr per family from working Americans. As 3 million AMERICANS lose unemployment?
... by the end of April, why are DEMOCRATS viewing illegal immigrants as worthy of that money but not Americans? http://www.collegiatetimes.com/stories/6...
Is it true that immigrants do jobs that Americans don't want? Or, are those Americans out-competed by the low wage that immigrants are willing to work for?
That is hard to say. There is significant amount of data showing that yes immigrants do work that Americans don’t want to do, BUT, that is only because the low wages immigrants are willing to accept is the reason why they take jobs Americans wouldn’t want to normally do.Take construction for example. Private contractors hire illegal workers, and pay them 80$ to 100$ a day. But they wouldn’t hire an American to do the same work. Reason being is because the American worker is going to need healthcare and a higher wage than 100$ a day to do hazardous labor.NYC construction, a carpenter for example can earn upwards of 100k a year. A Non Union workers can earn 60k a year. But the immigrant worker will cost 20k to 30k a year. The immigrant worker doesn’t require healthcare 401k, pensions, workers compensation etc etcSo anytime I hear “immigrants do work Americans don’t want to do” I call bullsh#t. That’s what it is. Because if an American were to take a construction job making 80$ a day there would be a healthcare crisis considering a the work related deaths. It just wouldn’t be possible.I am not going to work on the side of a skyscraper 200 feet in the air only making 100$ a day. Those contractors should be held responsible for hiring illegal workers and punished by the Law.I don’t have a problem with immigration or immigrants. My problem is with Liberals who continue to throw around that phrase “they do work Americans don’t want to do, or will do.” And it is completely FALSE.Americans will do any job that you give them. That’s if you pay them a decent wage. Pay them decent wages and Americans will do any job that immigrants do.And quit frankly it is tiring and disgusting to hear, because millions of Americans are under under employee or unemployed and can’t get decent jobs in construction because they cannot compete.
Is illegal immigration a moral blindspot of liberals?
In the US? Absolutely. And it’s closely aligned with the blind spot that cost Clinton this election.Illegal immigration is a means by which American companies get away with the same human and worker’s rights violations common in other countries. Which is exactly the same thing offshoring our manufacturing is. Our laws protect American workers, but they don’t protect illegal immigrants or offshore workers.All of this is symptomatic of a prevailing attitude among the left (not everyone, but enough to make Hillary a viable candidate) that people who work with their hands are hired help, best not seen or heard and, if they are smart, glad to have the scraps their betters leave for them. Because, you know, if you went to college whatever you do must have real value.They say they support all immigration because everyone should have a chance at a better life. They say offshoring manufacturing is ok because Americans should all go to college and pursue highly skilled careers. It’s all bullshit. They support illegal immigrants and offshored manufacturing because they like paying lower prices. We know this because they don’t boycott Tyson, and they don’t protest against Apple. They buy shoes made by Indonesian child slaves, hamburger processed by $2 an hour Mexican illegals, and iPhones manufactured in what amounts to a prison. And all the while they claim to be making the world a better place.The left is just as blind, and just as hypocritical, as the right. The conflict between them is primarily due to different blind spots and hypocrisies.
Are undocumented workers taking the jobs of the Americans?
one of the main argument of the anti-immigrants its that they are taking our jobs however the latest statics had reveal that demographics are proving this to be wrong , i would like to remind u something ..... mister president how can u say that it is a good thing to send our jobs over sea ??? mmm well it is a good thing .....lets go back to where we were ..... latest statics had reveal the undocumented immigrants unlike the anti-immigrants usually talk about whit out studying the real fatcs usually compete whit each other instead of competing whit the Americans . second the immigrants had usually taken the jobs which the Americans had left , this started since ww2 when blacks and some white americans decided not to comeback to the fields or to the same they had done before but to better their lives by trying something else . i would like to add that most people i know from new orleans had decided not to comeback because they did not have jobs before