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Modern Karl Marx Alienation Ideas.

Explain Karl Marx's theory of alienation?

Simply put, it consists of 4 types of alienation, as shown in an average factory worker under capitalism:

Alienation from the product - The simplest one to understand. What you produce does not belong to you

Alienation from other people - You don't get to spend time with people you enjoy. Instead, you are forced to work with people regardless if I you like them or not.

Alienation from work - If you work on an assembly line, your job becomes monotonous and automatic. Your mind doesn't even have to be there.

Alienation from the species essence - That's the hardest one to understand, but it's rooted in Marx's belief that humans are naturally inclined to work, as long as this job engages their "human spirit".

As far as I can figure out, a perfectly unalienated worker under Marx's system would be someone like an artisan (blacksmith for example) who has his own business, works with whoever he wants, owns whatever he produces and of course, loves his job.

How can Karl Marx's theory of alienation (and his other labour market theories) apply to the MODERN workplace?

The first responder does not not seem to actually be familiar with Marx's theory of alienation. Marx wasn't talking about a modern psychological conception of alienation; he was talking about his own idea of alienation, and it had everything to do with the workplace.

Marx's idea of alienation had to do with the separation of people from what is generally translated into English as their "species being." Basically, he means alienation from human nature. He saw it as a fundamental part of capitalism: common workers put their labor into something that the capitalist class owns, and Marx saw one man's ownership of another's labor as an alienating force. This has not changed in any significant way since his time.

Marx would have probably expected capitalism to have mostly collapsed by now, and that's one way in which his theories could be said to fail to be relevant, although there have been plenty of post-Marxist thinkers who have adapted Marx's ideas to new ideas and historical evidence over the years.

Edit: NC, after looking at some of your other answers shortly after posting mine, it became clear to me that you probably were familiar with the theory, but that doesn't change the fact that you answered the question as if you weren't. I don't see how Marx's concept of alienation is empirically testable, or what child psychology has to do with what Marx was talking about when he used the word "alienation."

Edit: I see Marx's alienation as a primarily philosophical concept, albeit a philosophy of the nature of economic activity. He is not, as you continue to insist, talking about the psychological state of feeling alienated. He's not using the word to mean what people generally use it to mean today. You might as well be talking about some movie called "Alienation," because that would have almost as much to do with Marx as the psychological condition you're discussing does; you're confusing completely different concepts simply because they have the same name. Alienation is a Marxian PHILOSOPHICAL term for the ABSTRACT concept of being alienated from one's species being, and is not the same thing as the subjective, measurable psychological state of feeling alienated from other people. You're comparing apples, to Apples: fruit to computers.

What were Karl Marx ideas?

Some of us believe he recorded them In 'Das Kapital' and 'The Communist Manifesto'.

What does Karl Marx's Alienation theory state?

In the "Economic and Philosopic Manuscripts" Marx describe the four aspects or stages of the alienation of workers in capitalism (the examples are my own):1) Alienation from the means of production - technology and machinery is not owned by workers, but by the capitalists, who use it to boost profit, not to make work more satisfying. So the productive process and technology itself can be experienced as oppressive.2) Alienation from the products of labour - workers have no control over what they produce. Production is for profit. So today, globally, enough food is produced to feed everyone, but it is not profitable to do so, so food is dumped and people starve. At the same time nuclear weapons continue to be produced - putting humanity's very existence at risk.3) Alienation of worker from worker - capitalism forces workers into competition with each other, so other workers are seen not as fellow humans but as competitors or enemies. Workers compete for jobs within a company, companies compete with each other, and nations compete in the global economy.4) Self-alienation - workers in capitalism are seperated from their true creative and co-operative nature. They can feel lost, powerless and unfulfilled generally, and particularly in their working lives.

Comparing and contrasting the ideas of Karl Marx and Max Weber, which of the following statements is TRUE?

a. Weber thought modern society was alienating; Marx did not.

b. Both Marx and Weber thought modern society was alienating, although for different reasons.

c. Neither Marx nor Weber thought modern society was alienating.

d. Marx thought modern society was alienating; Weber did not.

How was karl marx a modern philosopher?

It depends on what you mean by "modern." Historically speaking, he was a post-Hegelian thinker who lived shortly after Hegel, so that puts him in the time period of modernity. Secondly, he saw himself as responding to the dominant philosphical positions of his time, which were Hegel's and Schelling's versions of idealism.

By "modern" you might also mean the methods and ideas that are central to modern philosophy. Modern philosophers generally hold that the self's capacity to know itself is the starting-point of philosophical reflection. There is also a strong belief in the need for a foundation for the sciences. Descartes and Kant both believe that philosophy is and ought to be the "queen of the sciences."

Marx is not a modern philosopher is this traditional sense; he is not concerned with foundations for the sciences. He does think that the self is important, but really only as a tool to overturn capitalism---man is a producer who shouldn't be alienated from his product. The emphasis on collectivism also doesn't sit will modern philosophers who think that the individual is of utmost importance. Kant, for instance, would see Marx's position as undermining the role of autonomy (freedom). Marx, on the other hand, thinks genuine freedom is when you don't have an economic system alienated you from yourself.

Marx and modern philosophy are dealing with two different conceptions of the self, and while modern philosophy is concerned with grounding the sciences, Marx's project is economically motivated.

Marx is a modern philosopher when it comes to his place in history, but his ideas do not seem to be in accord with those who preceded him.

Cheers.

How did Marx's conception of alienation differ from Weber's?

For Karl Marx it was the way in which people make products that is the catalyst that governs the Western societies. He suggested that when workers lost control of what they produced, they were forced to sell their labour and therefore be exploited which inevitable alienated them from their work. For Marx socialism was inevitable, it was closely linked to the enlightment - in pre socialized societies individuals were alienated from their work and others around them ( dictatorship of the proletariat).Weber’s theory of alienation comes from his views that capitalism and socialism are manifestations of rationalization. He meant that alienation occured when societies transitioned from primary, communal and traditionalist shapes to larger, impersonal and bureaucratized shapes of modern life.Weber disregarded exploitation as important in capitalism and instead thought that capitalism was strongly correlated to the Protestant faith. He based this on the Protestant belief that ” the fulfillment of duty in worldly affairs is the highest form of moral activity”. Protestants work hard and save money which in turn led to a division of labour and class.

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