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Us Military Academies And Prior Drug Use

Should I lie about drug use if I want to join the U.S. military?

It depends.Reasons you should tell the truth:If you've done drugs in the past 45 days.If you've done drugs consistently for several years and have only stopped using less than a year ago.If there is evidence of you doing drugs that can be easily found in a background check.If you have a criminal conviction for drug use or drug possession within the past 8 years.If you have already admitted to drug use to a member or the Armed Forces or testify to using drugs in a sworn statement accessible to anyone in the DoD.If your drug use is known by individuals who will or may be interviewed during your background check and they are prone to spill the beans.Reasons to lie:You haven't done drugs in over a yearYou are confident you can pass the urinalysis exam.You have done cocaine, heroin, meth, or LSD but you have been clean for over a year.You told your recruiter in private and he said it's no big deal and he will not list your drug use in the paperwork because it's not important.There is no public record of your drug use and no one to reliably accuse you of doing drugs.The choice is yours. If you tell the truth you may be disqualified from joining. If you lie and are caught you can get prosecuted for fraudulent enlistment. You should do your research before you make the choice.Take heed however: whatever choice you make you have to stick with it until the end. If you lie don't backpedal, wavering in anyway from your original answer is a good way to get investigated and get in more trouble.If you lied, never ever ever admit it even if you fail a drug test; most service members who get in trouble for drug use get convicted because of their confession not the drug test. The validity of drug tests are very hard to uphold in courts, so let them prove you did drugs, don't do their work by confessing. Good luck.

Is there an admission drug test for the US Naval Academy?

It takes place during the Dodmerb Physical. There are urinalysis tests at the Academy.
"As a midshipman, you are subject to random drug testing through urinalysis, consistent with Navy-wide policies and procedures."
http://www.usna.edu/geninfo.htm
Honestly, I don't see why this should be a concern for anyone competing for an appointment to any service academy and I also don't think Service Academies should be drug testing since it makes a mockery of the Honor Code/Concept.
"Midshipmen are persons of integrity: They stand for that which is right.

They tell the truth and ensure that the full truth is known. They do not lie.

They embrace fairness in all actions. They ensure that work submitted as their own is their own, and that assistance received from any source is authorized and properly documented. They do not cheat.

They respect the property of others and ensure that others are able to benefit from the use of their own property. They do not steal."
http://www.usna.edu/OfficerDevelopment/h...


If a Midshipman "tells the truth and ensures that the full truth is known" and "does not lie" the only drug test necessary is a verbal/written declaration that the Midshipman has not used drugs. Drug testing of Midshipmen implies that the Naval Academy does not honor its own Honor Code.

How many U.S. Presidents were graduates of the military academies?

Democrats don't seek war, and neither do Republicans. You can ask the question "How many tall Presidents have taken the country to war?" and shed just as much light on how the world works.The United States is not a primitive culture where wars are fought because the queen has been carried away to Troy or because the maximum leader wants to be Alexander the Great rather than just Alexander the Notable. We have civilian control of our military, and we have a large diplomatic corps. Our Presidents are treated with an enormous amount of respect, and addressed as "Mr. President" (so far no "Madame President") even by their Vice Presidents. However, should a President behave erratically or without consensus, it should be clear that the vast bureaucracy, from the President's own staff to lowly analysts, would not stand by and say nothing while a President issued indefensible military orders.There are certainly politicians who have famously worked to avoid war even after it was apparently inevitable, such as Neville Chamberlain, for instance. But eventually it is the actions of our enemies that make war impossible to avoid. The duty of an elected President of the United States is not to pursue the Nobel Peace Prize. With good fortune, each one will deserve that honor.  But their first responsibility is to defend the US against threats. They take these actions based on the knowledge they have at the time. Presumably Lyndon Johnson believed that North Vietnam was a threat to the United States, and that they might be allowed to become a larger threat over time unless he manufactured a crisis in the Gulf of Tonkin. But he didn't do so to run up the profits of American arms manufacturers or any other shocking reason. There have also been miscalculations, from the Bay of Pigs to WMD's in Iraq. But again, intelligence is done on a best efforts basis. If another country is determined to keep a secret, it may be necessary to take action based on a preponderance of evidence rather than proof that would be impossible to obtain.

What's the cost/benefit analysis of lying about prior drug use when joining the military?

Recreational use or experimental use of Drugs is not a dis- qualifier from Military Service. Divulging your personal history of Drugs will prevent you from obtaining certain Security Clearances that might be required for certain job specialties.If you have a long history of Drug Use and possible addiction, I would suggest that you get medical attention and forget about Military Service. Not everyone is cut out for Military Service and Military Service is not for everyone.If your experience with drugs was experimental/recreational and you have never been involved in a drug related incident, if you had never been hospitalized for drug use or never attended a drug rehabilitation program, and never arrested for possession, this is what I would tell you.Is your Drug use a source of pride to you? Do you feel an urge to share this news with everyone? Because if you tell me you smoked a joint at the last Pink Floyd Concert 15 years ago, I am going to put that down. And when I put that down that becomes a part of your permanent record, it will follow you for the rest of your life. If 20 years from now you try to get a job that requires a security clearance and the employer has a no tolerance on drug use policy, guess what.Now as your Recruiter, if you do not tell me, then I do not know. I must assume that when you tell me you have never used drugs, that must be the truth. Even though you come into my office with T-shirt with Snoop Dog blowing a Blunt with the words free the weed all over it, to my knowledge, not only have you never used drugs you are a staunch opponent to Drug use of any kind. What do I care? My only concern is putting you in boots.What is the cost, I would say Lying to the Government will cost you your Soul, but actually you lost that a long time ago when you started smoking dope.What is the benefit of lying, your record is still clean.If you go on to join the Military I wish you great success, you will learn that many others in the Military get high. Be careful, learn the rules, be safe and protect yourself. don’t fall victim to the Golden Flow.

Navy previous drug use?

I know this has been asked a million times, but I feel my situation is very individualized.

When I graduated high school, I didn't really have anything to look forward to except partying at university because I was too busy in high school to party due to strict sports rules and guidelines. Anyway; at 18 years old, when I got into university, I smoked probably 4 nights a week for 10 weeks or so. At the time, I didn't really have any reason to not do it, I was just "living it up." I eventually dropped out because of some issues in second semester (not drug related). Now 2 years later (clean for 2 years) I have really been considering the navy. I've been enrolled at community college for a year and staying away from any illegal drugs or bad behavior. I had nothing to live for or look forward to at university, but now I want to join the navy but I think the past will come back to haunt me. The only illegal drug I ever used was pot.

My morals have changed, I don't ever intend to smoke again or do anything illegal, I have grown up and made wiser decisions since my time at university.

Will I be able to get into the navy? Could i get a waiver? i refuse to lie because thats not the type of person I've changed into. If i cant get a waiver, so be it, ill live in my regrets; but i will not lie.

I really want to serve my country and protect the freedom I've been able to grow up with!

Thanks everyone for reading! :)
I thank you for your time and answers ahead of time :)

Please don't talk about how marijuana is bad or illegal, you're preaching to the choir. I realize and regret my mistakes.

Was Donald Trump ever in the military?

No. He was drafted but for the first few years got the exception because he was attending college. Once he was no longer attending Fordham Prep, he was called to service but got a doctor's note that he had spurs in his heels so he was pushed to the bottom of the call list. He had reportedly played tennis, squash, and baseball in college all those years however. Funny for a guy who disrespected McCain as a POW in our military, by saying that “He’s a ‘war hero’ because he was captured. I like people that weren’t captured, okay? I hate to tell you.” Sure, Mr. Trump, and you would also rather play squash at your country club than step up and help when you're called to help. At least McCain volunteered to serve his country.2S = Student deferments1A = Available for service1Y = Bottom on call up list4F = Same as 1Y (the military stopped using 1Y classification in '71)Obviously, we cannot know what was going through his head. Maybe somehow he did have a legitimate medical concern. We won't know. I'm sorry for going on and on; the short answer would have been no, he has never served.

Can I join the US military with a history of being in a mental hospital?

Your prior drug use might be as big an issue toward preventing you from joining the US military as your prior mental problems would be. Admitting that you overdosed on drugs would be a red flag to recruiters and to the screeners at the MEPS (where you are checked prior to military service) and that alone might be enough to deny you enlistment.I would suggest first talking with a psychiatrist before you talk with recruiter and getting an assessment from that person on whether or not you might be suitable for military service. This can save you time and possible embarrassment because recruiters aren’t going to consider your feelings when you discuss your personal issue with them. If the doctor suggests that you consider other options, you may wish to listen to him/her.If they don’t, then you should approach a recruiter and be honest about your past. This is because if you are honest LATER, it’s likely that it would be poorly received as you will have lied on your military paperwork and that is a federal offense. If they tell you that your past problems will prevent you from serving, I would suggest accepting that graciously and moving forward with your life.

Will I be disqualified from the military for a school suspension on being under the influence of marijuana and are they able to check the record?

It always best to discuss this with your recruiter. They will provide the best answers to questions dealing with issues that affect the possibility of your enlistment.For the most part school records are not documents that are reviewed by the military, nor any agency or investigator doing a background check. If your school maintains good records, which many schools don't, and archives them for longer than a year or two, they may still be available for an investigator to check out. However even if a record does exist, many States and schoolboards have rules and regulations preventing the sharing of vital school records without a court order. If it's been over 5 years, your school records are most likely lost or destroyed. So I doubt your school records will be reviewed by anyone in the military.However this doesn't stop school teachers, administrators, or acquaintances from making statements or testifying to your behavior and actions to an investigator. So your drug-use and subsequent suspension can still be discovered from witness accounts of the events. This is why speaking with your recruiter is the best option before making a statement or omitting the event from your enlistment paperwork.Your recruiter is your friend, more than anyone (besides yourself) they have a vested interest in getting you to enlist into the US Military. They will give you the best advice and the best options moving you forward in your quest. Trust them, listen, and heed their advice.Good luck pal.

Would prior marijuana use automatically disqualify you from a being accepted into a military academy?

Have you been arrested for any drug related offense? If not quit using 120 days out before entry into the academy, as long as there's no record of use on file and you can pass a screen before entry you should be good.

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