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Why Do Some Liberals Now Deny That Obama Said There Were 46 Million Uninsured

Question for liberal thinkers (re:Health care)?

Here's the problem, it is going to get worse.

Back in 1990, let me tell you, my dad didn't have to pay ANY premium at all, his employer covered the entire thing. Not to mention the fact that he also had no deductible.

Now people are paying $100-even $400 a month to cover their families, usually depending on the size of the company they work for. And they have $500-2000 and higher deductibles.

My husbands company has an employee HR system, when I logged in to set up his benefits at the beginning of this year, they actually had listed what the company was paying as a premium for him, and what he would be paying. The company's cost was over $800 a month, along with our part of it which is about $160.

Now, you tell me how smaller companies and small businesses are going to afford that to cover their employees. It KEEPS going up.

And even the larger companies it is going to have a negative effect, as they pay more for healthcare, they're going to give LESS in raises, don't you think? And at the same time they'll ask their employees to pay higher copays on the premiums.

Our system is broken as is, it's basically becoming a downward spiral. There are many small fixes we can do to slow it down(lawsuit reform etc), but it going to keep getting worse.

Because each time someone who doesn't have insurance because their small company couldn't afford to provide it gets severely sick and can't pay their hospital bills, the hospital starts charging more to make up for it, and then the insurance companies start charging higher premiums to cover those costs, and then a few more businesses realize they can't afford their healthcare benefits, and a few more people are without insurance, and they get sick and can't afford their bills AND ON AND ON AND ON.

What else are we going to do at this point?

Edit: Just wanted to add this because it shows a real world example of my point:
http://www.wxyz.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=28cdaabc-35a1-481f-95d3-b9d4c2c2163f

“Slow growing revenues and rising healthcare costs have forced us to cut back on pay increases for our hard working employees while at the same time asking them to assume more of their healthcare costs including higher co-pays,” Patterson said.

Uninsured health care statistics?

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2009/06/26/how_to_lie_with_statistics_--_again_97189.html

46 million (it becomes 50 million when senators really get keyed up) Americans don't have health insurance.

It is true that the 46 million figure is based on unreliable Census Bureau data

But even the less unreliable Congressional Budget Office puts the number at about 31 million.

For one reason, the uninsured figure counts all Americans (and illegal immigrants) who have been uninsured for any amount of time during a year

45 percent of the uninsured are uninsured for four months or less

another portion of uninsured Americans already qualify for existing government health insurance programs

Turns out that 8.4 million uninsured Americans are making $50,000 to $74,999, and 9.1 million more are making more than $75,000

Just curious as to your take on these stats..........

Why are Republicans so against the Health Care Reform bill?

Republicans have also vowed to repeal Medicare/Medicaid and social security in the past. If the bill does get repealed, they'll only target certain aspects. I know that some people don't like the detail that a unmarried 'child' can be under their parents health plan until age 26, but it's such a high age b/c when people get out of college, they are dropped from the plans. With no job or university, you can't get health insurance. This was to close the gap on the million of uninsured Americans who have not gotten into a career yet.

Here's a good summary of how the bill will affect you. http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2010/03/21/us/health-care-reform.html/

So to answer your question, politics. Congressmen are against it for political reasons (since there is no super liberal thing included). Tea partiers and such are against it because of ignorance. (I didn't know what was on the Bill until after it was passed). There was a great statistic that I cannot source (sorry, but a lot of politicians mention it) that about 46% of the US were for and 44% were against the bill (as a whole), but when the poll-takers were described aspects of the bill the ratio went to 70 for and 30% against.

Do you think Barack Hussein Obamas health care plan is a joke?

He wants both private and universal health care?

What happens if private insurance starts offering better rates than national insurance?

Also, with the great job our government has done with our Social Security program can we honestly depend on them to do a good job with healthcare?

Lastly, who will decide what quality of care you recieve? The government? I say NO THANK YOU!

Have you or has anyone you personally know been harmed financially or otherwise by the Affordable Care Act/ACA/Obamacare?

My mother lost her job as a hospice nurse because the company she was employed by wasn't able to adjust with the changes. All of their patients lost care until the assets were absorbed by a bigger company. Unfortunately due to the nature of hospice care and how long it can take paperwork to get sorted out, dozens of patients died in pain and without the dignity they deserved during that period.She followed those patients and the company the best she could, and after the fact she actually took on management and teaching positions and has been able to retire early because of her performance in other hospices, but the whole event has made her incredibly bitter about government meddling in healthcare.

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